Date: Tue, 27 Jan 2015 19:05:37 +0100 From: Dirk Engling <erdgeist@erdgeist.org> To: galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu Cc: jail@freebsd.org, "Michael W. Lucas" <mwlucas@michaelwlucas.com> Subject: Re: preferred jail management tool Message-ID: <54C7D371.9010609@erdgeist.org> In-Reply-To: <14943.128.135.70.2.1422381245.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu> References: <CACfj5vKjiQHsy9VbOKFFcrBpyr3dmbkOOxTxCYhSyZrnrjRiaQ@mail.gmail.com> <CAHieY7TyxzC0aK-ErY2EbCmTJPykk_9G7Gd=CrZ9yxQ-77PynA@mail.gmail.com> <20150127012347.GA4940@lonesome.com> <20150127141239.V77290@sola.nimnet.asn.au> <54C7958B.40007@gmail.com> <54C7C828.4070703@erdgeist.org> <14943.128.135.70.2.1422381245.squirrel@cosmo.uchicago.edu>
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On 27.01.15 18:54, Valeri Galtsev wrote:
> I for one would prefer this ("use vi to edit config files" which are plain
> human readable ASCII text). And I will be extremely displeased if config
> files become XML or any other format designed for fancy GUI presentation
> of plain information. And if I'm forced to use these GUI tools. This
> basically what happened in Linux recently with systemd forced down the
> throats of people. This caused new wave of refugees from Linux to other
> systems FreeBSD being one of them. (I myself am a refugee from Linux: some
> 5 or 6 years ago I started migrating most important servers to FreeBSD,
> workstations in our Department stay Linux though...)
Did you take a look into the jail.conf format, recently? The mess you
describe is exactly what we're stuck with, now. A structured file format
you're supposed to edit with vi (and not mess up the structure) due to
the lack of proper shell tools to manipulate it with.
With the old approach "each jail config is contained in its own
jail_JAILNAME_* variable name space", we could at least distribute
config in different files and declare some of them being in another
realm, like ezjail did. You could edit them by hand and more or less
efficiently manipulate them in a tool.
erdgeist
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