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Date:      Wed, 08 Dec 1999 17:22:04 -0500
From:      "Scott I. Remick" <scott@computeralt.com>
To:        freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: What kind of attack is this?
Message-ID:  <4.2.2.19991208171410.00aa4db0@mail.computeralt.com>
In-Reply-To: <19991209083140.A7509@atdot.dotat.org>
References:  <4.2.2.19991208162315.00b5f4e0@mail.computeralt.com> <4.2.2.19991208162315.00b5f4e0@mail.computeralt.com>

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At 08:31 AM 12/9/99 +1030, Mark Newton wrote:
>Get a FreeBSD box with two ethernet interfaces.  Enable ipfw.  Start
>with rules that look like this:
>
>   ipfw add pass udp from any GOODPORT to any in via OUTSIDE-INTERFACE
>   ipfw add deny udp from any to any in via OUTSIDE-INTERFACE
>   ipfw add pass all from any to any
>
>Of course, the ruleset you end up with will be more comprehensive
>than that, but it should give you an idea.  Look at /etc/rc.firewall
>for more info.

Yeah, I understand all that, believe it or not :).  I actually have the 
system built up partway (FreeBSD 3.3, 2 NICs working, ssh the only service, 
firewall built into kernel, etc) but it's not quite so easy to just drop it 
into place.  I need to get everyone off static IP and onto DHCP so I can 
then chop up our class C into subnets so we can actually do routing, then 
move some server's IPs around so they end up in the proper subnets, and I 
even want to drop in a 3rd NIC and have a 3-homed host.  But things that 
involve change and aren't Microsoft solutions move at a snail's pace around 
here... but I digress...

I am hoping to figure out a way to do exactly that with the Pipeline.  I 
actually have a bunch of filters on it that I already created but they 
don't overlap the way these do and I'm unclear whether the Pipeline will 
interpret these filters the way I need it to.  But your first 2 rules are 
exactly what I had in mind, and I know how to do them... I suppose I could 
just put them in place and see if it works.

>Alternatively buy a Cisco -- Ascends are toy routers, IMHO, with
>somewhat limited packet filtering abilities.

They won't be doing that anytime soon.  As it was, I had to obtain a 
no-cost system using loose used inventory so that I could build up the 
FreeBSD box destined to be a firewall.

What I'm hoping for is a temporary band-aid solution for this one 
particular event, and to understand the type of attack better, and also 
nail the jerk and have his toys taken away from him.

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