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Date:      Thu, 11 Jan 2001 12:36:23 -0800
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
To:        Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>
Cc:        obrien@FreeBSD.org, Doug Barton <dougb@FreeBSD.org>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/etc crontab rc src/etc/defaults rc.conf src/etc/mtree BSD.root.dist src/libexec Makefile src/libexec/save-entropy Makefile save-entropy.sh 
Message-ID:  <19283.979245383@winston.osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: Message from Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>  of "Thu, 11 Jan 2001 20:54:16 %2B0200." <8537.979239256@axl.fw.uunet.co.za> 

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> I'm pretty sure that this has all been discussed before, with quite a
> bit of consensus (although some might bitch about the period in the
> directory name '/.entropy'.

Hmmm, if it was then FreeBSD's diskless boot community never weighed
in during the discussions and that's a pity.  You're well aware, one
assumes, of the fact that many of these people habitually use a
read-only root?  They're not the only ones either - just about all of
the embedded folks who boot out of flash also run RO root and usr
filesystems.  That's one the big reasons for keeping /var a separate
filesystem, at least conceptually, in order that that we might mandate
a writable filesystem as part of the hierarchy standard.  I'll admit
that hier(7) is a little vague on that point, but it's certainly been
part of the conventional wisdom for as long as I can remember.

I also appreciate the arguments for having /var be "too late" in the
boot process, at least as things currently stand, but simply assuming
that root is writable as your work-around isn't a very safe solution
either.

- Jordan


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