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Date:      Sun, 13 Dec 1998 18:08:31 -0800 (PST)
From:      Matthew Dillon <dillon@apollo.backplane.com>
To:        Terry Lambert <tlambert@primenet.com>
Cc:        archie@whistle.com, jwd@unx.sas.com, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: inetd: realloc/free bug
Message-ID:  <199812140208.SAA07846@apollo.backplane.com>
References:   <199812132244.PAA10383@usr09.primenet.com>

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    I think there's some confusion here:  The reason there is a timeout on
    the select has nothing to do with signals interrupting system calls.  We
    don't care about that case - it's irrelevant.  The only reason there is
    a timeout on the select is to handle the case where a signal occurs
    just *BEFORE* select() is entered where the signal function adds a
    file descriptor to the mask set.  If this case occurs, the select() will
    wind up waiting on a mask set that does not contain the new descriptor
    thus possibly resulting in an infinite wait.  That is the *SOLE REASON*
    why there is a timeout on the select.

    As I have said repeatedly:  If someone does a read of the code and can
    guarentee that none of the signal functions *add* a descriptor to the
    mask set, we can remove the timeout entirely.

						-Matt

    Matthew Dillon  Engineering, HiWay Technologies, Inc. & BEST Internet 
                    Communications & God knows what else.
    <dillon@backplane.com> (Please include original email in any response)    

:> :>     If you put a time limit on select(), it doesn't matter if there is a
:> :>     race condition there.  How does select() cause a signal to be missed ?
:> :
:> :Well, sure.. :-) but then you don't service signals in real time
:> :and spend extra cycles timing out all the time.
:> 
:>     You do serve signals in real time... the signals are *unmasked* during
:>     the select() :-) ... the race condition is that the unmasked signal may
:>     cause the descriptor set to be changed just prior to the select() call,
:>     causing select() to wait forever.  The timeout on the select() handles
:>     the race condition without effecting the realtime delivery of signals.
:
:You should just use siginterrupt(3) to make sure select restarts, and be
:done with it.
:
:If you need to interrupt the select after setting system call restart
:behaviour, then use a longjmp from the signal handler after setting a
:volatile flag so that the flag can be tested in the "else" case of
:the setjmp() call.
:
:If the call is restarted, you don't have to worry about the timer, it
:will do the right thing, and you won't get an EINTR that you con't know
:how to handle the masks around.
:
:If you don't like siginterrupt(3), and want to use the non-Berkeley
:signal mechanisms for setting call restart behaviour, then be my
:guest and write 30 or 40 lines of POSIX expecting code instead.
:
:The siginterrupt(2) system call first appeared in BSD 4.1c; the
:current code uses POSIX sigaction(2); someone might want to correct
:the siginterrupt(3) man page...
:
:
:					Terry Lambert
:					terry@lambert.org
:---
:Any opinions in this posting are my own and not those of my present
:or previous employers.
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