Date: Wed, 3 Oct 2007 02:30:25 -0500 From: Astrodog <astrodog@gmail.com> To: "Aryeh Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> Cc: freebsd-current@freebsd.org, Robert Backhaus <robbak@robbak.com> Subject: Re: small purposal for change in installworld Message-ID: <2fd864e0710030030h1bbacc5enc6e1502cb2929dbf@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: <bef9a7920710030011m735a7b53y572510ac74bf1cb5@mail.gmail.com> References: <bef9a7920710021757kc553836g8aae00ca139830f6@mail.gmail.com> <d4499580710030004m2fb57600ke9e4ac7159e95fb7@mail.gmail.com> <bef9a7920710030011m735a7b53y572510ac74bf1cb5@mail.gmail.com>
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On 10/3/07, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > On 10/3/07, Robert Backhaus <robbak@robbak.com> wrote: > > On 10/3/07, Aryeh Friedman <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: > > > Installworld shouldn't clobber the supfiles in > > > /usr/share/example/cvsup... having to change the default host after > > > every build/install world is annoying > > > > Another option is to always specify the host on the command line (csup > > -h cvsup2.au.freebsd.org ....) or using a tool like fastest_cvsup > > (csup -h `fastest_cvsup -qc au` ...). > > > > Where in the ports collection do I find fastest_cvsup? side question > maybe we want to make it the default host for cvsup (ala gentoo's > emerge) I believe the... perhaps unsaid point behind this behavior is that it is generally unwise to easily allow someone who cannot type "cvsup5.us.freebsd.org", or somesuch, to update a system from source. FreeBSD's buildworld/kernel/etc can be significantly more demanding of users than most of Gentoo emerge's behavior. Gentoo handles small chunks of the system, generally speaking, whereas in FreeBSD you have buildworld ; buildkernel ; installkernel ; boot ; mergemaster ; installworld ; boot, and a mistake during this process can render a machine unusable. Given the inherent dangers of using cvsup, and updating from source, I do not believe this... minor barrier to entry really deserves consideration, and I'm sure we can all agree that it really would be best to paint it blue. --- Harrison
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