Date: Sun, 27 Oct 1996 22:32:12 +0100 From: regnauld@tetard.glou.eu.org (Philippe Regnauld) To: sos@FreeBSD.org Cc: hackers@FreeBSD.org Subject: Base tree bloating (Was: ex/vi version 1.79 now available for anonymous ftp.) Message-ID: <199610272132.WAA03470@tetard.glou.eu.org> In-Reply-To: <199610240947.LAA06952@ra.dkuug.dk>; from sos@FreeBSD.org on Oct 24, 1996 11:47:12 %2B0200 References: <Pine.BSI.3.95.961024120710.28783D-100000@creator.gu.kiev.ua> <199610240947.LAA06952@ra.dkuug.dk>
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sos@FreeBSD.org (sos) ecrit/writes: > Actually I think NONE of them (tcl, perl?) belong in the base OS, but > they are fine as ports (so are the new vi :) ) I tend to agree with you. I guess that now that there are several Perl dependencies in the tree (killall, adduser, etc...), there's really no way of making Perl optional (well, it COULD be made that Perl and all those that need it be only installed if Perl is checked at Install time -- call it 'mandatory packages' :-P ). As for tcl, well, I guess that having Perl already there made it a 'come one, come all' policy -- something to be avoided. This is why, as much as I like Perl, importing Perl 5 should be put off, if not permanently, at least for a while: as Ollivier Robert wrote, 5.002 was bugged, 5.003 is a kludge, and 5.004 is not out yet. Furthermore, that's 8 more MB in the BASE tree! I'm sorry, but that's a LOT compared to the size of the minimal bin distribution. Perl 5 should remain a port. > We have been polluting our base tree with this stuff for too long, I think PHK's '/usr/src/contrib' policy is already a good step towards 'modularity' (call it 'purity' if you like). Without wanting to sound like Linux Slackware, what about install-time selecting those distribs that are in the /usr/src/contrib ? > and it seems we are getting a habit of more is better. Why do we have > ports at all, hell put it all in the base tree, and I'll do a > "back to basics BSD" for the purists to run... (nice idea btw)... More work towards modularity, i.e.: rewrite adduser et al in sh. We don't need SosBSD :-))) -- -- Phil -[ Philippe Regnauld / regnauld@eu.org / +55.4N +11.3E @ Sol3 / +45 31241690 ]- -[ "To kårve or nøt to kårve, that is the qvestion..." -- My sister ]-
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