Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2007 10:06:34 +0200 From: Giorgos Keramidas <keramida@ceid.upatras.gr> To: "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> Cc: Bill Hacker <askbill@conducive.net>, freebsd-current@freebsd.org Subject: Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] Wiki for discussing P35/IHC9(R)/SATA issues set up Message-ID: <20071106080634.GA8648@kobe.laptop> In-Reply-To: <47301E48.1000409@gmail.com> References: <472F5D9A.9050900@delphij.net> <op.t1b08cc6ufp0mi@localhost> <472F6773.3080801@delphij.net> <op.t1b121p9ufp0mi@localhost> <472F6B02.2030801@delphij.net> <op.t1b37ronufp0mi@localhost> <472F7C05.6050000@conducive.net> <472FCE60.9070806@gmail.com> <47301A4A.2030807@conducive.net> <47301E48.1000409@gmail.com>
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On 2007-11-06 02:56, "Aryeh M. Friedman" <aryeh.friedman@gmail.com> wrote: >>> 2. The only difference between different hardware is the >>> implications of sw issues... for example I get timeouts but no >>> infinite cycle when booting from cd >> >> ACK - and developers of software very seldom have access to even the >> tiniest fraction of the hardware that the community at large have >> their hands on. > > And that is why I volunteered to help out but it seems they prefer for > me to just send various diag dumps so neither of us has any grounds > for complaint here I think. That's the way a lot of FreeBSD developers work. It may look 'flawed' and 'wrong', but there are probably a fair number of reasons why this is their preferred 'mode of operation'. For example, they may not have web access at all times. An email with a lot of useful information in the form of a logfile is available when 'offline' too. A wiki is not. I'm not saying that you shouldn't use your favorite means of collecting information from these threads (i.e. the wiki), but it is important to realize that it's *not* easier or more useful than the mailing lists; what is *can* be is another source of information, a complementary resource :)
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