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Date:      Tue, 12 Oct 1999 22:10:00 +0200
From:      "Michael Hallgren" <m.hallgren@free.fr>
To:        "Kris Kennaway" <kris@hub.freebsd.org>, "Donald Wilde" <dwilde1@thuntek.net>
Cc:        <freebsd-security@freebsd.org>
Subject:   Re: MD5 systems interacting with DES systems
Message-ID:  <015101bf14ed$c4b27e60$5b014b0a@asf.fr>
References:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9910121253390.89607-100000@hub.freebsd.org>

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> On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Donald Wilde wrote:
>
> > I saw a hint that some routines (rlogin, etc.) will not work unless DES
> > is installed both ways. Are there low level (transport level) routines
> > which we can use with MD5 systems, or is my best answer to do the
> > encrypt/decrypt at the user level?
>
> I don't think this is correct. rlogin and friends do no encryption or
> password authentication themselves, and aren't linked against libcrypt at
> all. So there should be no difference whether or not you have DES
> installed.

Berkeley r* authenticates over source address, if I'm not seriously
mistaken...



> However...
>
> > I don't mind making all systems MD5.
>
> ...this is the way to go, unless you specifically need DES passwords (e.g.
> sharing passwords with commercial unices). DES is just too insecure
> thesedays.

Well,... yes... ... ;)


>
> As for encrypted transport, which it sounds like you were talking about,
> you want either ssh (if the license restrictions are applicable to you -
> or you could port the "last truly free" version which the openbsd guys
> have been cleaning up in their tree),

Yes, nice. SSH's a VERY good replacement for r* 'and a host of other needs).


>or your could go for IPSec (either
> in the kernel - see www.kame.net), or userspace (the pipsecd port in
> net/).

Anyone been trying out FreeS/WAN ?

Cheers

mh

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