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Date:      Wed, 19 Jan 2000 11:12:42 +1100
From:      "David Uzzell" <duzzell@1stpenshurst-scouts.asn.au>
To:        "Michael Bartlett" <cataract@eye2eye.net>, "'Scott Brim'" <ncc1701v@yahoo.com>, "'Alejandro Ramirez'" <ales@megared.net.mx>
Cc:        "'Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd.'" <wmptl@MNSi.Net>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: M$ Exchange Server Support
Message-ID:  <003a01bf6211$e9138580$e1982acb@1stpenshurstscouts.asn.au>
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RE: M$ Exchange Server SupportHas anyone looked at intrastore yet not =
bad not quite but very good (free to 250 user for linux)

http://intrastore.cdc.com=20


  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Michael Bartlett=20
  To: 'Scott Brim' ; 'Alejandro Ramirez'=20
  Cc: 'Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd.' ; =
'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 10:29 AM
  Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Server Support


  Scott,=20

  Our office lives on Outlook, shared calendars, tasks, venue bookings =
etc... all NT Workstation, NT Servers blah blah blah

  Personlly I run two linux boxes @ home and 1 bsd box and have a linux =
box on my desk at the office and three BSD servers for apache/php =
development, and I've basically made it my life's mission to either =
replace Exchange Server on the Server or run an exchange server and find =
some unix-type Outlook client that will suit our needs, and =
unfortunately I've found nothing nothing nothing! Thinks like joydesk =
and so on are amateur products that have no polishing and your average =
idiot user just cant grok the interface or the useability. Thats clearly =
why linux hasn't got the market penetration we all want it to have, =
because the software still needs years of work to get to a point where =
Joe Bloggs and his wife can click click click and make a shared =
appointment for sex in evening. I've never seen GOOD office productivity =
tools on any unix system, ever - and until that day I reckon you and I =
are going to have to continue running Exchange & Outlook until either =
all the stupid users on the planet get nuked or until Sun and Corel get =
something better out there (I reckon they are the only developers who =
have had SERIOUS end user experience).

  Sorry. bad mood everyone ;)=20

  But... if you do manage to find something, give little ol me a shout!=20

  .mike=20

  -----Original Message-----=20
  From: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  [mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG]On Behalf Of Scott Brim=20
  Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2000 1:03 AM=20
  To: Alejandro Ramirez=20
  Cc: Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd.; freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG=20
  Subject: RE: M$ Exchange Server Support=20



  That's not the point (for me, anyway).  Some of us need to work with=20
  people who are stuck using MS Outlook and Exchange servers, and we =
need=20
  to interact with them.=20

  Thanks ... Scott=20

  At 04:44 PM 1/18/00 -0600, Alejandro Ramirez wrote:=20
  >Hi,=20
  >=20
  >Try this link:=20
  >=20
  >http://www.joydesk.com/=20
  >=20
  >Greetings=20
  >Ales=20
  >=20
  >----- Original Message -----=20
  >From: Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd. <wmptl@MNSi.Net>=20
  >To: <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>=20
  >Sent: Monday, January 10, 2000 3:51 PM=20
  >Subject: M$ Exchange Server Support=20
  >=20
  >=20
  > > Does anyone out there know of an emulator, or software package to =
run=20
  > on a=20
  > > FreeBSD box that will allow us to use M$ Exchange Server's =
"Tasks".=20
  > >     We are currently using M$ Outlook '97/2000 as a POP3 email =
client=20
  > to a=20
  > > FreeBSD box, we would like to utilize M$'s "tasks" option, but =
surely=20
  >don't=20
  > > want to require Windows NT Server. Any suggestions welcome.=20
  > >=20
  > > Nathan Vidican,=20
  > > Windsor Match Plate & Tool Ltd.=20
  > > unix_usr@fcmail.com/wmptl@mnsi.net=20
  > >=20
  > >=20
  > >=20
  > >=20
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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Has anyone looked at intrastore yet not =
bad not=20
quite but very good (free to 250 user for linux)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2><A=20
href=3D"http://intrastore.cdc.com">http://intrastore.cdc.com</A>; =
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
  <DIV=20
  style=3D"BACKGROUND: #e4e4e4; FONT: 10pt arial; font-color: =
black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A href=3D"mailto:cataract@eye2eye.net" =
title=3Dcataract@eye2eye.net>Michael=20
  Bartlett</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:ncc1701v@yahoo.com"=20
  title=3Dncc1701v@yahoo.com>'Scott Brim'</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:ales@megared.net.mx" =
title=3Dales@megared.net.mx>'Alejandro=20
  Ramirez'</A> </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Cc:</B> <A =
href=3D"mailto:wmptl@MNSi.Net"=20
  title=3Dwmptl@MNSi.Net>'Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd.'</A> ; <A=20
  href=3D"mailto:'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'"=20
  =
title=3Dfreebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>'freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG'</A>=
 </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, January 19, =
2000 10:29=20
  AM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> RE: M$ Exchange Server =

  Support</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Scott,</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Our office lives on Outlook, shared calendars, =
tasks, venue=20
  bookings etc... all NT Workstation, NT Servers blah blah =
blah</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Personlly I run two linux boxes @ home and 1 bsd box =
and have=20
  a linux box on my desk at the office and three BSD servers for =
apache/php=20
  development, and I've basically made it my life's mission to either =
replace=20
  Exchange Server on the Server or run an exchange server and find some=20
  unix-type Outlook client that will suit our needs, and unfortunately =
I've=20
  found nothing nothing nothing! Thinks like joydesk and so on are =
amateur=20
  products that have no polishing and your average idiot user just cant =
grok the=20
  interface or the useability. Thats clearly why linux hasn't got the =
market=20
  penetration we all want it to have, because the software still needs =
years of=20
  work to get to a point where Joe Bloggs and his wife can click click =
click and=20
  make a shared appointment for sex in evening. I've never seen GOOD =
office=20
  productivity tools on any unix system, ever - and until that day I =
reckon you=20
  and I are going to have to continue running Exchange &amp; Outlook =
until=20
  either all the stupid users on the planet get nuked or until Sun and =
Corel get=20
  something better out there (I reckon they are the only developers who =
have had=20
  SERIOUS end user experience).</FONT></P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Sorry. bad mood everyone ;)</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>But... if you do manage to find something, give =
little ol me a=20
  shout!</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>.mike</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>-----Original Message-----</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>From:=20
  owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>[<A=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG">mailto:owner-freebsd-=
questions@FreeBSD.ORG</A>]On=20
  Behalf Of Scott Brim</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Sent: Wednesday, =
January 19, 2000=20
  1:03 AM</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>To: Alejandro Ramirez</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>Cc: Windsor Match Plate and Tool Ltd.;=20
  freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>Subject: RE: =
M$ Exchange=20
  Server Support</FONT> </P><BR>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>That's not the point (for me, anyway).&nbsp; Some of =
us need=20
  to work with </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>people who are stuck using MS =
Outlook and=20
  Exchange servers, and we need </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>to interact =
with=20
  them.</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>Thanks ... Scott</FONT> </P>
  <P><FONT size=3D2>At 04:44 PM 1/18/00 -0600, Alejandro Ramirez =
wrote:</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;Hi,</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;Try this link:</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;<A href=3D"http://www.joydesk.com/"=20
  target=3D_blank>http://www.joydesk.com/</A></FONT>; <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;Greetings</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;Ales</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;----- Original =
Message=20
  -----</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;From: Windsor Match Plate and Tool =
Ltd.=20
  &lt;wmptl@MNSi.Net&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;To:=20
  &lt;freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;Sent:=20
  Monday, January 10, 2000 3:51 PM</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt;Subject: M$=20
  Exchange Server Support</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; &gt; Does anyone out =
there know of an=20
  emulator, or software package to run </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; on =
a</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; &gt; FreeBSD box that will allow us to use M$ =
Exchange=20
  Server's "Tasks".</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
&gt;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; We=20
  are currently using M$ Outlook '97/2000 as a POP3 email client=20
  </FONT><BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; to a</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
&gt; FreeBSD=20
  box, we would like to utilize M$'s "tasks" option, but surely</FONT> =
<BR><FONT=20
  size=3D2>&gt;don't</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; &gt; want to require =
Windows NT=20
  Server. Any suggestions welcome.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
&gt;</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; &gt; Nathan Vidican,</FONT> <BR><FONT =
size=3D2>&gt; &gt;=20
  Windsor Match Plate &amp; Tool Ltd.</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
&gt;=20
  unix_usr@fcmail.com/wmptl@mnsi.net</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
&gt;</FONT>=20
  <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; &gt;</FONT> <BR><FONT size=3D2>&gt; =
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