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Date:      Mon, 12 Jan 2009 20:05:59 -0800
From:      "Garrett Cooper" <yanefbsd@gmail.com>
To:        "Mark Linimon" <linimon@lonesome.com>
Cc:        freebsd-bugs@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: kern/130478: [request] Port Linux kernel stub of nouveau to FreeBSD
Message-ID:  <7d6fde3d0901122005j6a106d52h7c4946df483563bd@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <200901122350.n0CNo2tV076482@freefall.freebsd.org>
References:  <200901122350.n0CNo2tV076482@freefall.freebsd.org>

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On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 3:50 PM, Mark Linimon <linimon@lonesome.com> wrote:
> The following reply was made to PR kern/130478; it has been noted by GNATS.
>
> From: linimon@lonesome.com (Mark Linimon)
> To: Henrik Friedrichsen <hrkfdn@gmail.com>
> Cc: bug-followup@FreeBSD.org
> Subject: Re: kern/130478: [request] Port Linux kernel stub of nouveau to FreeBSD
> Date: Mon, 12 Jan 2009 17:42:02 -0600
>
>  On Mon, Jan 12, 2009 at 11:30:03PM +0000, Henrik Friedrichsen wrote:
>  > So is this a good or a bad thing? Are patches in development? Or why did
>  > you suspend the PR? =)
>
>  I know of no patches in development.
>
>  Although we do allow requests for features to be submitted to GNATS,
>  in practice they are hardly ever acted on.  We have a sufficient
>  backlog of things that you can technically consider "problem reports"
>  to keep us busy for years :-)
>
>  My own priorities are to bring attention to:
>
>  - things that affect data integrity
>  - regressions introduced in new versions
>  - various bugs in the kernel
>  - various bugs in userland
>
>  There are a considerable backlog of the above (we have a lot more users
>  than we do developers :-) )
>
>  What I consider secondary problems:
>
>  - problems installing FreeBSD in the first place
>  - non-supported devices
>
>  We do have a team of bugbusters willing to help people with problems
>  installing, which has helped to keep the count down to some degree.
>  However, the 'requests' generally do not get handled -- it takes a
>  developer wanting to solve a problem that affects him or her before
>  things get committed.
>
>  mcl

    I think what Mark might have been fishing for was `enhancements'.
Once all major issues have been worked out, or if someone with
necessary interest wants to get to the enhancement you proposed in the
meantime, the enhancement request will get taken care of.
    Hint: Sometimes enhancement requests can coincide with bugs
though, in which case you can probably bolster support through the
community by noting that x86 PAE / x86_64 / x64 support (and other
architecture support, like powerpc) doesn't exist. That would
definitely help your goals. I can think of at least once case where
this has lead to improvements in FreeBSD (HPS's USB2 stack), and I'm
sure there are no doubt more...
    Does that help?
Cheers,
-Garrett



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