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Date:      Wed, 23 Oct 2002 12:56:55 -0700
From:      Terry Lambert <tlambert2@mindspring.com>
To:        Brooks Davis <brooks@one-eyed-alien.net>
Cc:        Steven Ames <steve@virtual-voodoo.com>, Andrew Mishchenko <andrew@driftin.net>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Request: remove ssh1 fallback
Message-ID:  <3DB6FF07.5DAC9CCB@mindspring.com>
References:  <007501c27a5c$27203fc0$6501a8c0@VAIO650> <20021023155753.GB7503@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <004401c27aad$740a5400$33d90c42@officescape.net> <20021023161643.GA7813@HAL9000.homeunix.com> <20021023143917.GA3222@driftin.net> <3DB6F2E1.799FF6F7@mindspring.com> <009001c27ac8$af6d77f0$33d90c42@officescape.net> <20021023123349.A9132@Odin.AC.HMC.Edu>

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Brooks Davis wrote:
> I think it's safe to say that if you do a remote upgrade to 5.0 and
> miss this change (if it happens), you're probably going to have missed
> several other more important change.  A source upgrade from 4.x to 5.x
> is definatly not for the faint of heart or the non detail oriented.

I'm talking a binary upgrade, using the sysinstall "upgrade"
option.

Check the mailing list archives around 4.3-RELEASE, when it was
discovered that /etc/pam.conf didn't get "ssh" lines added to it
on upgrades, and people were getting locked out of boxes left and
right (predates "other" entries).

Changing behaviour on an upgrade, without the user's consent, is
a bad thing (note: *consent*, not *knowledge*: it's not up to the
user to know about everything some programmer has diddled into
non-operability in the two years since FreeBSD 5.x was branched).

-- Terry

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