Date: Fri, 19 Jan 1996 14:58:15 -0800 From: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com> To: sos@freebsd.org Cc: swallace@ece.uci.edu (Steven Wallace), erich@uruk.org, freebsd-hackers@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Linux and/or ELF executables Message-ID: <1810.822092295@time.cdrom.com> In-Reply-To: Your message of "Thu, 18 Jan 1996 17:55:35 %2B0100." <199601181655.RAA26569@ra.dkuug.dk>
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> This is bullshit, I saw some crude hacks to the NetBSD code, then > NOTHING happend for a couple of months, and then suddenly it was >... > committed. That pissed me off, and still does, as it totally screwed > the SVR4 work I had lying around... OK you guys, calm down - I don't think ANYBODY deserves to throw stones here! Why? Because the situation is pretty simple - our emulation strategy has been really screwed for a long time, has taken a far too long to come together and nobody should be too proud of how things have turned out in that department! No insult to Soren intended, but if we'd developed the rest of the system with the same speed that the emulation stuff has come together, we'd all still be using the original VM system and our drivers wouldn't be much advanced beyond 386BSD 0.1. So rather than bickering about who did what in what order, why not just admit that the emulation picture has been one long history of balls dropped on the floor and sub-projects more or less abandoned? I know that I waited a long time for Soren to finish his work and basically gave up on ever seeing anything come out of it. He really has no right to blast *anyone* in this list for doing something even remotely constructive in the emulation arena because he more or less walked out of that whole area long before it was even halfway finished, and blasting someone for "screwing up his work" would be like Bill Jolitz coming back after 2 years and saying "What the hell have you people done to my system? I was *working* on this stuff!" :-) I know that time is limited - I probably have a better appreciation of that fact than most people. I know that everyone is doing this for free and shouldn't be expected to start or finish anything "on schedule" - that's not the issue I'm talking about here. I'm simply saying that if you're *not* willing to finish something in a reasonable timeframe, and I think over a year is more than reasonable, then DON'T FLAME SOMEBODY ELSE FOR DOING THE WORK! End of topic! Jordan
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