Date: Tue, 25 Apr 2000 15:39:01 -0700 From: "Randy A. Katz" <randyk@ccsales.com> To: <keith@mail.telestream.com>, Kenneth Wayne Culver <culverk@wam.umd.edu> Cc: Kristoph Yates <kyates@wspice.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Why does PORTS SUCK so BADLY!? Message-ID: <3.0.5.32.20000425153901.02d1d9b0@ccsales.com> In-Reply-To: <Pine.LNX.4.10.10004251520180.11052-100000@mail.telestream. com> References: <Pine.GSO.4.21.0004251750060.2099-100000@rac6.wam.umd.edu>
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Hiya!! Tell the nubies to use FreeBSD and/or Linux and not to use any ports or rpm's. They will need to read and will learn a whole lot more...tell them it's free education! Then, as you have been hurrying so to do in the meanwhile, create your OWN distribution method which is WAY BETTER then rpms and ports and doc it up and distribute it for free with source so all can share your success! I'm sure we'll be hearing from you with your new program soon! In Anticipation, Randy Katz At 03:22 PM 4/25/00 -0700, keith@mail.telestream.com wrote: >I hardly think it has to do with ports. Operator error more likely. >I do admit to having a problem with two or three ports but in the end it >was my own ignorance that was the problem, not the ports system. >Perhaps you should look at the same issue I did to find the problem. >:) > >Keith > > >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >I here by change the name >of RedHat to RedSplat. > >Keith W. >At the helm <for better or worse> >=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D > > >On Tue, 25 Apr 2000, Kenneth Wayne Culver wrote: > >> > That is my question.=A0 It seems the idea behind ports is trapped in= the >> > 70's.=A0 They hardly work and many times get errors about "file not >> > found" or something equally annoying.. so I have to go in and screw >> > with it "by hand" which is no problem for me.. but the newbies are >> > another story. Once I ran make lynx and it said I had to have X11 >> > installed.=A0 What a crock.. another fine example is openssl ...=A0 It >> > wants the useless RSAREF crap.=A0 What a crock!=A0 What does Satoshi= Asami >> > have to say about the disorganization of the ports collection?=A0 When >> > will FreeBSD come up with something more reliable?=A0 Yes, I cvsup'd= the >> > latest ports as of about a week ago. The only reason I would like to >> > see ports be more reliable is because I have lots-o-people that want >> > to run *nix.. so I recommend to them FreeBSD.=A0 If ports were more >> > reliable, I would spend less time on the phone/net helping people >> > install stuff on their FreeBSD boxes. =A0 So far, the easiest solution >> > is to tell them to try Linux.=A0 rpm --install blahblahblah seems to >> > work better for newbies than depending on the ports and these folks >> > are pretty brainless when it comes to installing=A0 things "by hand ", >> > the "old fashioned way". Any info would be appreciated.=A0 Please >> > respond via email as I am not subscribed to the list. thanks, >> > kyates@wspice.com >> >=20 >> I only have a couple of things to say to you about the ports >> collection. First off, you must be doing something wrong because I have >> NEVER had any of these problems. Second, many people's main reason for >> moving to FreeBSD _IS_ the ports tree. All you need to do is be sure >> you're connected to the internet when you go and type make somewhere, and >> all dependencies are fetched. I have had very few problems with the ports >> tree, and it has only made my life easier. >>=20 >>=20 >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >> | Kenneth Culver | FreeBSD: The best OS around. | >> | Unix Systems Administrator | ICQ #: 24767726 | >> | and student at The | AIM: muythaibxr | >> | The University of Maryland, | Website: (Under Construction) | >> | College Park. | http://www.wam.umd.edu/~culverk/| >> =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D >>=20 >>=20 >>=20 >> To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >> with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message >>=20 > > > >To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org >with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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