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Date:      Tue, 22 Jun 1999 13:10:31 -0400 (EDT)
From:      Pete Fritchman <petef@netreach.net>
To:        Nick Rogness <nick@rapidnet.com>
Cc:        security@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Question: Preventing Smurf
Message-ID:  <Pine.GSO.3.96.990622131006.418A-100000@borneo>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.4.05.9906221024310.61463-100000@rapidnet.com>

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so let me get this straight...

if your gateway is ping'able you *CAN* be a smurf relay?

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Pete Fritchman             petef@netreach.net
Netreach                     www.netreach.net
System Administrator

On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, Nick Rogness wrote:

> On Tue, 22 Jun 1999, N.N.M wrote:
> 
> > Thanks for your reply. That is the point: I disable net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho 
> > (=0) on a freebsd box with the IP, i.e. x.x.11.18. But when I use broadcast 
> > ping (ping x.x.11.255) on another pc (i.e. x.x.11.17) on the same Ethernet, 
> > the first machine which is not supposed to reply to the ping, will reply! So 
> > I thought I might need another thing to disable that or maybe using 
> > broadcast ping on the same Ethernet isn't a good way to test it or ...... 
> > Any idea?
> 
> 
>  # Deny icmp packets from hitting broadcast
>   ipfw add 3000 deny log icmp from any to x.x.11.255/32 in via de0
> 
> 
> > 
> > Nazila M.
> > 
> > 
> > >From: mwlucas@exceptionet.com
> > >To: madrapour@hotmail.com (N.N.M)
> > >CC: freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
> > >Subject: Re: Question: Preventing Smurf
> > >Date: Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:06:52 -0400 (EDT)
> > >MIME-Version: 1.0
> > >From mwlucas@easeway.com Tue Jun 22 11:18:15 1999
> > >Received: (from mwlucas@localhost)by easeway.com (8.8.8/8.8.5) id 
> > >HAA02940;Tue, 22 Jun 1999 07:06:56 -0400 (EDT)
> > >Message-Id: <199906221106.HAA02940@easeway.com>
> > >In-Reply-To: <19990622073945.98174.qmail@hotmail.com> from "N.N.M" at "Jun 
> > >22, 99 00:39:43 am"
> > >X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.4ME+ PL32 (25)]
> > >
> > >To test if it works, ping your subnet's broadcast address (i.e.,
> > >a.b.c.255).  If you're not sure of the broadcast, an ifconfig -a will give
> > >it to you.
> > >
> > >The machine won't respond to a broadcast ping.  This will prevent you from
> > >being a smurf relay.
> > >
> > >A more effective method would be to block broadcast pings at the router to
> > >your network.  Check your router's documentation or mfg. web site for
> > >exact instructions.
> > >
> > >Regards,
> > >==ml
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi,
> > > >
> > > > Is it enough to do "sysctl -w net.inet.icmp.bmcastecho=0" to prevent 
> > >being
> > > > Smurf Intermediary? And if so, how can I check it to get sure if it is 
> > >ok?
> > > > I did the above change, but my freebsd box still responses to ping (from 
> > >a
> > > > pc on the same Ehternet) to broadcast address. Is it normal?
> > > >
> > > > thanks,
> > > > Nazila M.
> > > >
> > > >
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