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Date:      25 Feb 1998 13:35:05 +0100
From:      dag-erli@ifi.uio.no (Dag-Erling Coidan Smørgrav)
To:        Tom <tom@sdf.com>
Cc:        "Aaron D. Gifford" <agifford@infowest.com>, freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ASUS P2L97DS
Message-ID:  <xzplnuzamme.fsf@hrotti.ifi.uio.no>
In-Reply-To: Tom's message of "Tue, 24 Feb 1998 21:47:24 -0800 (PST)"
References:  <Pine.BSF.3.95q.980224214207.12581M-100000@misery.sdf.com>

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Tom <tom@sdf.com> writes:
> On Tue, 24 Feb 1998, Aaron D. Gifford wrote:
> > [I wrote]
> > > I can't answer the questions you asked, but I can tell you this: the
> > > P2L97 is not a good performer. It has only three DIMM slots and two
> > 
> > I don't have anything to compare with and I haven't done any benchmarks,
> > so take this with a grain of salt: my P2L97 with a P-II 300MHz on it &
> > 256MB screams!
>
>   I agree with that.  The original poster doesn't really seem to qualify
> what "not a good performer" means either.  The poster should back up
> wild statements with some facts.  The ASUS P2L97 is a good board.

Is that a variant form of "mommy, the nasty man is dissing my
motherboard, make him stop"?

I based my claim on benchmark results which place the P2L97 about
halfway between "wouldn't use it if they paid me to" and "wouldn't
part with it if they paid me to". These results are there for all to
see at <http://www.tomshardware.com/motherboard-review440lx.html>.

The ASUS P2L97 is undoubtedly (as every other board ASUSTek has ever
made) a robust, high-quality board, but that does not necessarily mean
it is fast.

Also, Aaron, when you describe a P2L97 system as a "screamer", what
are you comparing with? Do you have a couple of ABIT or Tyan systems
with comparable CPUs running alongside your ASUS system? Can *you*
point to benchmark results? Or are you comparing your 300 MHz PII with
your kid brother's 166 MHz Pentium MMX or something?

Sorry, but ASUS aren't what they used to be, although I am looking
forward to their next LX motherboard, in the hope that they will live
up to the P55T2P4.

Besides, my attitude to *any* Slot I motherboard is skepticism.

>   Also, the P2L97DS has 4 DIMM sockets.  Only the P2L97 has three DIMMs.
> Either way, that is enough for 384MB of RAM using 128MB DIMMs.  BTW, the
> only DIMMs I've ever seen are 128MB...

I have yet to see one of those. I can get cheap 32 MB and 64 MB DIMMS
in at least three different stores in Oslo though.

>   I don't care about ISA cards either.  I don't know why anyone would put
> 16 bit cards in a P2 motherboard.  The fewer ISA slots the better.  Can't
> wait until a ZERO ISA slot motherboard is made.  Means more room for PCI
> slots.

How many PCI sound cards do you know of? Sorry - how many *cheap* and
*readily available* PCI cound cards do you know of?

-- 
"I have a closed mind. It helps keeping the rain out." (Michael Press on a.s.r)

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