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Date:      Tue, 14 Nov 2000 20:31:53 -0600
From:      "Josh Paetzel" <jpaetzel@hutchtel.net>
To:        "nathan" <beemern@telecom.ksu.edu>, "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
Cc:        "Adam Kress" <dutch@neo.rr.com>, <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: Not enough memory to boot (was: Old timer PC)
Message-ID:  <019601c04eac$38303a00$0200000a@vladsempire.net>
References:  <NEBBJOAHALDFDHJPBCLHCEIBCAAA.dutch@neo.rr.com> <20001113161552.L32175@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3A0FFF94.AA1E1A9E@telecom.ksu.edu>

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----- Original Message -----
From: "nathan" <beemern@telecom.ksu.edu>
To: "Greg Lehey" <grog@lemis.com>
Cc: "Adam Kress" <dutch@neo.rr.com>; <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Sent: Monday, November 13, 2000 8:49 AM
Subject: Re: Not enough memory to boot (was: Old timer PC)


I have a 386sx16 (supposedly the lowest performance cpu that Freebsd will
run on) with 4 megs of ram that runs FBSD 2.1.5 for mostly nostalgic
reasons....it is painful to behold.  I accidentally started X one day, and
that made my nose bleed for two days straight.  For a while I had 8 megs of
ram in the box and it ran a little better, but not much.  Maybe things are
different down where you are, but in the last two weeks I've collected 5 or
6 pentium systems that nobody wanted anymore....maybe you should look into
that before you try to upgrade your RAM.  If you do want to upgrade that
machine, I have a large supply of 4meg 30 pin SIMMs that I am willing to
part with for an exhorbant price.  (If you are lucky your 386 will have 8
simm slots that you can fill with 1meg simms, if it only has 4 slots, then
your only upgrade path is 4meg 30 pin simms....expensive and hard to find at
best.)

Josh
(Legacy Man)

> I did a similar install with the target machine being a 386 laptop with 4
megs of
> ram and 105 Mb hd.
> Its been working for a few months now with 4.1 on it (:
>
> As I recall, the mem limits were 4megs of ram to run, and 5+ to install.
> that's why i ended up isntalling on a diff machine with the laptop
harddrive in
> it, then moving back.
>
> To get to my advice on this:
>
> **Check your kernel config.** I ran into a similar problem (w/o the swap
error
> tho?)
> and fixed it by making sure my kernel was setup for the specific 386
devices.
> I don't know if you're using GENERIC or not, but i'd make a custom kernel
for
> your 386.
> and try it out.. it some time, a few reconfigs, and about 3 pots o coffee
b4 i
> got it going.
>
> goodluck
> nathan
>
> Greg Lehey wrote:
>
> > On Sunday, 12 November 2000 at 22:52:52 -0600, Adam Kress wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > got a small question, I have a machine here that is an OLD 386 with 4
megs
> > > of ram. I took a 500 meg hard drive and installed freeBSD-3.4-RELEASE
on
> > > that drive while it was in another machine. the machine I installed it
on is
> > > a PIII 450 with 352 megs of ram. I set up the file system in it like
so:
> > > 64 megs as a swap partition
> > > 436 as the / (root) partition
> > > or slices, it booted fine in the machine that I installed it on. When
I put
> > > the drive in the OLD machine it gets to the normal boot process till
this
> > > error comes up:
> > > changing root device to wd0s1a
> > > pid5 (sh), uid 0, was killed: out of swap space
> >
> > *sigh* Looks like we have a race condition with low memory situation.
> >
> > > from there it is stopped. I'm currently searching for parameters to
pass to
> > > boot, but I'm not having any luck. I'm hoping someone might be able to
help.
> > > I'm going to see if I can jam anymore ram in it later.
> >
>
>
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