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Date:      Tue, 18 Jan 2000 08:09:56 +0200
From:      Sheldon Hearn <sheldonh@uunet.co.za>
To:        Omachonu Ogali <oogali@intranova.net>
Cc:        Adam <bsdx@looksharp.net>, Will Andrews <andrews@TECHNOLOGIST.COM>, freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Parent Logging Patch for sh(1) 
Message-ID:  <6196.948175796@axl.noc.iafrica.com>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:04:07 EST." <Pine.BSF.4.10.10001172101390.96286-100000@hydrant.intranova.net> 

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On Mon, 17 Jan 2000 21:04:07 EST, Omachonu Ogali wrote:

> http://tribune.intranova.net/archives/sh-log+access.patch adds uid and
> username logging along with a deny list (/etc/sh.deny).

When you first posted, you neglected to mention that your patch included
a deny list (/etc/sh.deny).  This puts a different spin on things. :-)

While it sounds attractive on the surface, think how easy it is to work
around -- the exploit code must simply change its progname to something
which will never be in /etc/sh.deny (e.g. login).

So your patch scores something useful for a week, whereafter the script
kiddies catch up and we're back to square one. :-)

No, if this is to be done, it's with per-process credentials.  Someone
is already working on such a system for FreeBSD.  Since you seem
interested in helping out with the process of hardening FreeBSD, I urge
you to contact Robert Watson, who's spearheading the current hardening
project.

You can reach him at Robert Watson <robert+freebsd@cyrus.watson.org>.

Thanks for your interest in a more secure FreeBSD. :-)

Ciao,
Sheldon.


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