Date: Tue, 15 Dec 1998 14:30:07 -0800 (PST) From: Keith Woodman <keith@lightningweb.com> To: Steve Friedrich <SteveFriedrich@Hot-Shot.com> Cc: "freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG> Subject: Re: Boot disk Message-ID: <Pine.BSF.3.96.981215142020.24581A-100000@nefertiti.lightningweb.com> In-Reply-To: <199812152210.RAA27802@laker.net>
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Thanks. I guess the agrivation of the dead search must have made me touchy. You restate what I wrote in the previous mail. The engine and I don't speak the same language. :-) I'm not all that much of a newbie, but can be considered so to FreeBSD. I have installed and opereated 2.2.5 for almost a year. I think the lack of need to do any changes to the original install has made me stupid to the OS and workings of the organization. Which is a great compliment. We all can only hope for a system with as much uptime as that machine and as few problems. I also agree that the info given was great. It is nice to know that I don't need to go to some danged IRC to get fast answers as is the case in Linux. Stepping aside from the posting that started all this. I want to give grandous kudos to the team for what is the easiest kernel config of any Unix I have ever worked on. As well as network setup. Others are still tossing files all over the place and tons of hoops to jump through. Keith ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Keith Woodman Technical Coordinator Keith@lightningweb.com Lightningweb LLC pid 7962 (sniffit), uid 0: exited on signal 10 (core dumped) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- On Tue, 15 Dec 1998, Steve Friedrich wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 1998 12:32:04 -0800 (PST), Keith Woodman wrote: > > >Thanks for all the responses. I have it now. I must say that 90% of you > >have been very rude. I detect a hint of intellectual snobbery here. > >My name is not " hey buddy " . > >It doesn't do the image of the OS and it's supporters well when people > >come in and slam on someone asking a simple question. An answer would > >suffice. Can all the comments. Yes it may have been easy to locate. But > >not for someone not familiar with the servers at Free-BSD. And the search > >on the freebsd.org site was flat out dead for answers. As was dejanews. > >Thank you to all those that didn't lower themselves to personal attacks > >and provided info instead. > > I wasn't involved, but let me add my comments. > > Your first email contained what could be construed to be an insult (a > flame): > You said: I can't believe FreeBSD has made it so hard to get something > as simple as a boot floppy for a net install. > That would probably tick-off anyone who works on the web site or > FreeBSD in general. > > David Greenman may have ticked you off with: > Is it really that difficult to find? > Believe me, this wasn't a flame, it was an honest question. If you > responded to him with yes and explained the path you took and where you > went in circles, he probably would have instructed the webmaster to > make it easier. When people respond to me and I get ticked-off, I first > calm myself down and assume that that was not their intention. If > someone *really* wants to flame me, they'll have to be *pointed*, not > subtle. > > You came back with: I did a search on the FreeBSD site and it gave > me absolutely nothing on a search. > > This may be because the search engine and you don't speak the same > language yet. I had trouble with the search engine the other day and > the guys who work on it straightened me out in less than 24hrs. > Microsoft never did that for me... > > Oleg's response may have ticked you off: > You were suppose to read FAQ first, since you have a T3 ;) > > Get the floppy image from > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/floppies/boot.flp > and the ms-dos program to create it from > ftp://ftp.freebsd.org/pub/FreeBSD/tools/fdimage.exe > > But notice that he winked like this ;) which means he's teasing, but > not flaming. By the way, his answer is the most complete and well > targeted of any you got!! > > At one point you stated: > They could make the X configuration a little better as well. > Who is "they" ?? > In case you are unaware, X is provided (free) by XFree86. Not really > related to FreeBSD. See http://www.xfree86.org > > So what I'm trying to say is that you've been too sensitive, IMO. > Believe me, you haven't been flamed. I seen it and this wasn't it. I > sincerely hope no one takes any of this the wrong way, I'm trying to > show that no flames were meant. > > The 3.0R release was originally *too* easy to find and we had a *lot* > of newbies downloading it, instead of 2.2.7R or 2.2.8R, which, in many > cases, would have been more appropriate, since it's *more* stable and > better documented. The webmaster made the change to *protect* people > from themselves. > > Many of the links on www.freebsd.org don't look like links. This causes > some confusion, but you did get quite a few good answers and they > *really* didn't flame you... > > Hope this allays your emotions... > > Welcome to FreeBSD!! > > > Steve Friedrich > Viva la FreeBSD!! > Unix systems measure "uptime" in years, Winblows measures it in minutes. > > > To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-questions" in the body of the message
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