Date: Sat, 06 Oct 2001 19:36:39 -0500 From: Carroll Kong <damascus@home.com> To: Evan Sarmiento <evms@cs.bu.edu> Cc: freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: FreeBSD and Active Directory Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20011006192803.03a10cb0@netmail.home.com> In-Reply-To: <200110062149.f96LnFj26783@csa.bu.edu>
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If he is your superior, you should obey his wishes, no matter how
wrong and silly they are. He obviously has a lack of understanding of how
these systems work. Since he does not understand it, he is too afraid of
the "mysterious havoc" that will ensue. You can be sure that he will be
the first to blame your FreeBSD laptop if the Microsoft DNS server goes
down. I think you are putting yourself too much at risk by contending with
this guy.
However, to give you some ammunition if he is remotely
intelligent. FreeBSD laptops have been in existance and co-existing in a
"Windows network" before Active Directory existed. Does he understand
network protocols? He needs an application to take advantage of the layer
7 active directory. FreeBSD has no such applications nor primitives to
allow such. (you already stated this though). If you really want to beat
him with facts, tell him to do a test run on an isolated network with
FreeBSD and a Windows 2000 Active Server. Run a sniffer on the switch
(switch to promiscuous mode or hang off of a hub). Show him the network
sniffer analysis and correlate to system activity. You will find no such
Active Directory requests from the FreeBSD box. I am sure he still will
not believe it, since this guy obviously does not understand how systems
and networks function. How could he possibly understand the output of a
network sniffer?
So, I would honestly not try too hard. He is in charge, he is
held liable for the network. He has a lack of serious understanding of
network protocols and systems. He does not want to risk it. I suppose I
cannot blame him. However, his attitude of "I am not going to risk it" as
opposed to really thinking it out and doing a test is somewhat typical of
the IT world today.
At 05:49 PM 10/6/01 -0400, Evan Sarmiento wrote:
>Hello,
>
>My high school recently hired a new technology coordinator. Instead
>of using open source software, the coordinator redesigned the network
>to support Windows 2000 and Active Directory. For those of you who
>do not know what Active Directory is: Active Directory is an LDAP
>server which delineates what privledges each host on the network
>has, etc.
>
>I asked him his policy on laptops. After a long conversation, he
>said: "I do not allow any laptops running *NIX to be placed
>on the network, as I believe it will interfere with
>Active Directory."
>
>I tried to explain to him how false his assumption was, but,
>he would not recant his infamy. I can understand, in a way --
>He wants to make sure that the network is running for
>students to use.
>
>How would I go about convincing this enthusiast that FreeBSD
>will not somehow interfere with Active Directory? This is what
>I have tried so far.
>
>Fact: FreeBSD does not have any capability which would allow it to interact
>with Active Directory
>Response: I don't want to risk it
>
>Fact: Active Directory does not try to auto-configure clients, unless
>the client has the Active Driectory server name specified.
>Response: I don't want to risk it
>
>Can anyone help?
>
>Thanks,
>Evan
>
>
>
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