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Date:      Tue, 12 Oct 1999 14:23:42 -0700
From:      Randy Katz <randyk@ccsales.com>
To:        David Greenman <dg@root.com>
Cc:        Mitch Collinsworth <mkc@Graphics.Cornell.EDU>, Christopher Michaels <ChrisMic@clientlogic.com>, "'Mike Squires'" <mikes@sir-alan.chem.indiana.edu>, questions@FreeBSD.ORG, Randy Katz <randyk@ccsales.com>
Subject:   Re: Setting Intel Pro100B to half duplex
Message-ID:  <19991012142342.A15492@ccsales.com>
In-Reply-To: <199910121816.LAA17269@implode.root.com>; from David Greenman on Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 11:16:50AM -0700
References:  <199910121742.AA193980161@broccoli.graphics.cornell.edu> <199910121816.LAA17269@implode.root.com>

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I'ts a nice story, just wait 'till *YOU* have a problem with
autonegotiation, will you be smart enough to check that first
or will your network suffer endless packet loss...until you
call in a consultant...like David Greenman?

Take care,
Randy Katz

On Tue, Oct 12, 1999 at 11:16:50AM -0700, David Greenman wrote:
> >Also I'm curious about your statement about autonegotiate being
> >notorious.  I've heard this stated frequently but never with any data
> >to back it up.  After the above reply from Mr. Greenman I read up on
> >autonegotiation in 3 different books on high-speed networking and have
> >come to the _tentative_ conclusion that this rumor is based on old
> >hardware.
> >
> >It seems that the 100 Mbps ethernet spec pre-dates the NWAY
> >autonegotation spec and in fact there was a different method used for
> >autonegotiation in the earliest days of 100 Mbps ethernet.  My guess is
> >that this rumor was started during those early days and is still being
> >dutifully passed on by those who experienced problems with the early
> >non-NWAY equipment (and those who've heard the war stories from them).
> >
> >Can you (or anyone) state with any degree of certainty that any modern
> >equipment built with NWAY autonegotiation exhibits any problems with
> >autonegotiation?
> 
>    Most Cisco hardware gets it wrong, for whatever reason...at least when it
> is talking with a Pro/100.
> 
> -DG
> 
> David Greenman
> Co-founder/Principal Architect, The FreeBSD Project - http://www.freebsd.org
> Creator of high-performance Internet servers - http://www.terasolutions.com
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> 
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