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Date:      Sun, 10 Feb 2002 10:59:17 -0500
From:      Bill Moran <wmoran@potentialtech.com>
To:        "Brian T.Schellenberger" <bts@babbleon.org>
Cc:        "saifuddin Abd. Salam" <saif_addin@yahoo.com>, freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD admin Tool
Message-ID:  <3C6698D5.3040306@potentialtech.com>
References:  <20020210144127.79006.qmail@web11405.mail.yahoo.com> <20020210152836.C72C14093@i8k.babbleon.org>

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Brian T.Schellenberger wrote:
> On Sunday 10 February 2002 09:41 am, saifuddin Abd. Salam wrote:
> 
>>I have question as:
>>If linux have printtool, Solaris have admintool, how
>>about freeBSD?
>>
> 
> FreeBSD has vi.  What else do you need? :-)

ee or emacs, I can't stand vi (ducks the incomming flames ...)

> No, seriously, there are a number of tools to help with various tasks on the 
> ports, but no pretty GUI tool.  I happen to like that, but if you don't, 
> you're welcome to write one.

One excellent, overall tool is webmin.  It seems to integrate nicely with
FreeBSD, and since it works with most UNIX variants, you can train IT personel
on it and then install it on all your UNIXish machines.

> What FreeBSD *does* have, which I find more elegant than the Linux approach 
> (I've never used Solaris in an adiministrative capacity) is the ability to 
> use the *same* program for initial installation and for later system 
> maintenance.
> 
> Just type
> 
> /stand/sysinstall
> 
> and go to the configuration section.  You can do common administraive tasks 
> there, and in exactly the same way that you do during initial installation. 
> That said, as I've used FreeBSD more & more I use that approach less & less.

I agree completely, for most admin tasks sysinstall will walk you through it,
however, once you know the system, sysinstall is far klunkier than the command
line tools.

> It is *not* as comprehensive as some of the Linux administrative tools; for 
> other tasks, check out the FreeBSD Handbook (at the freebsd site) and follow 
> the directions there.  To me this is an advantage (it's one reason I switched 
> from Linux--it was getting too user friendly [== obscures what's really going 
> on] for me . . . 

I agree here as well.  A slightly related story is the number of NT server installations
that I've fixed because the dumbass who installed it didn't really know what he was
doing, but just clicked around until it seemed to work.


-- 
Bill Moran
Potential Technology
http://www.potentialtech.com


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