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Date:      Wed, 16 Jun 1999 11:06:23 -0500 (CDT)
From:      Chris Dillon <cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us>
To:        notme <notme@lvdi.net>
Cc:        "freebsd-questions@freebsd.org" <freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: FreeBSD + Samba to substitute Netware
Message-ID:  <Pine.BSF.4.10.9906161050590.32898-100000@mail.wolves.k12.mo.us>
In-Reply-To: <37670660.A97F5F9F@lvdi.net>

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On Tue, 15 Jun 1999, notme wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> The following is kinda a opinion question...
>     I am just wondering if it would be wise to substitute a Netware
> server with FreeBSD + Samba.  I have setup a FBSD server during
> last semester for my high school. (We got some new PCs, and
> Apple AIX sever no longer can serve)  We are planning to get Net-
> ware this coming school year (1999-2000), and I am wondering if
> there is a way, or if it wise to continue using FreeBSD instead. (Since
> everything is setup, and I have shell script to add all users. :)

Stick with FreeBSD and Samba.  You could probably even put Samba on
the Apple AIX (A/UX?) server.

>     Basically, we only do file serving (we don't even have e-mail), and
> we have Foolproof for security in Windoze.  We currently have
> 3 labs of 40 PII 350s, which I found FreeBSD to have no problem
> serving...  We also have several hundred Apple G3s, and if I'm
> correct, Netatalk will allow FreeBSD servers to communicate with
> Macs.

I've not used Netatalk yet, though I might, since we have a small
handful of old Macs on our network.  We have over 500 Windows machines
here being served by 5 NT servers, which I wouldn't hesitate to
replace with FreeBSD+Samba boxes given the chance (permission,
rather).

> I believe one of the main reason we're approaching Netware is for
> its security. (Correct me if I'm wrong, but there is a logon
> procedure for Netware clients, right?)  But I am wondering, if
> there is ports similar to Netware's. (the Client-server relation,
> logon... stuff like that)

Netware is not any more secure than the FreeBSD+Samba solution.  
Also, since Samba appears as an NT server to all of your Win* clients,
there is no need to install any extra client software, as you must
with Netware.

> I personally have not experience with Netware, and of course, I do
> not know its ability.  However, I much prefer the FreeBSD since I
> have much more experience with it.

Netware is a lot nicer than NT itself, but if you already have a Samba
solution going, that's even better.  I know very large sites that use
Samba to serve many thousands of clients, so there is no question that
it can do what you want.  The only drawback is the more advanced
management features that you might find in Netware will be lacking in
Samba, at least for now.  Someone will write them eventually, or you
could even write them yourself.  :-)



-- Chris Dillon - cdillon@wolves.k12.mo.us - cdillon@inter-linc.net
   FreeBSD: The fastest and most stable server OS on the planet.
   For Intel x86 and Alpha architectures (SPARC under development).
   ( http://www.freebsd.org )

   "One should admire Windows users.  It takes a great deal of
    courage to trust Windows with your data."



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