Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 17:17:20 +0000 (UTC) From: Lucy Davis <lucy@top10-websitehosting.co.uk> To: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Interview Proposal Message-ID: <1249414358.10200843.1536686240439@ip-10-1-0-82.ec2.internal> In-Reply-To: <1120584734.7915038.1536340640809@ip-10-1-0-82.ec2.internal>
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To: FreeBSD Questions <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" X-Content-Filtered-By: Mailman/MimeDel 2.1.27 X-BeenThere: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org X-Mailman-Version: 2.1.27 Precedence: list List-Id: User questions <freebsd-questions.freebsd.org> List-Unsubscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/options/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=unsubscribe> List-Archive: <http://lists.freebsd.org/pipermail/freebsd-questions/>; List-Post: <mailto:freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> List-Help: <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <https://lists.freebsd.org/mailman/listinfo/freebsd-questions>, <mailto:freebsd-questions-request@freebsd.org?subject=subscribe> X-List-Received-Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2018 19:10:19 -0000 Hi all, I guess it's time for another food for thought email of like-minded FreeBSDers, as I am coming to a new conclusion about this whole enterprise crap world of which I am so evermore fed up of... For me it all started with a comment about Theo de Raadt's visionary comment here, brought to light by Ian Smith in 2017: https://docs.freebsd.org/cgi/getmsg.cgi?fetch=117621+0+archive/2017/freebsd-questions/20170820.freebsd-questions At the time I was going through Java / AWS hell so I posted this rant which was followed up by interesting and diverse commentary: https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/ml-freebsd-questions/bMlBTj4Xx_Q And now I have been recently exposed to the pinnacle of enterprise crap: microservices. Not saying that they are not a good idea, on the contrary, they are! But is this all really that new?? So modern-day microservices rely heavily on virtualization (Linux on AWS), pseudo-virtualization (Docker), and well, the microservices themselves. They bring on a whole new set of challenges such as log unification (usually through something like Elastic Search, Log Stash, Kibana, Beats, etc.), and IPC (through an MQ su as Apache Kafka). Plus a whole new pile of shit that they are throwing at this microservices "architectures" such as Hystrix and of course, everyone needs to be "streaming" so they throw in stuff like Spring Reactor or RxJava, "new" Actor design patterns like Akka (actually invented in 1973) and well, whatever other thing that Netflix or Amazon use, then everyone else has got to use them too. Read any book on the subject and well, cry. Talk about layers and layers, upon layers and layers of crap, basically to achieve something like, well: Unix, TCP/IP and HTTP. So let me breakdown a few of these things so you get what I'm saying: Reactive Streams: a new FAD designed to handle "back pressure" and vertical scaling by taking advantage of multi-core CPU's and low-level caching issues etc. Well, guess what, enterprise idiots: that's EXACTY why you want a solid Operating System that sits on, and it's fined tuned to that specific real hardware! and with regards to back-pressure, old school protocols such as HTTP have had things like 503 and RetryAfter header from their original design!! It's so funny that most of these things are for multi-core optimizations that are not even running on real hardware! Log Unification: well how about a little education on RFC 3164 and Log Analyzer? Virtualization: isn't this what Unix basically is? I mean the concept of processes that are running and sharing resources is that not virtualization by principle? Pseudo-Virtuzalization: Isn't this what chroot and BSD Jails do? Oh you want an easy interface like Docker, well how about EzJail? IPC: Isn't that what pipes and SYS 5 IPC provide: an MQ, Shared Mem and Semaphores? Oh too slow? (really? compared to what?). And finally the crown jewel: microservices. Well, isn't this one of the basic design principles of Unix? I mean tiny little things that talk well to each other to build big things with? Honestly I could go on but I thing you get the idea. It seems that this whole "enterprise" industry has been hell-bent on re-inventing a big, bad, ugly and expensive version of Unix, just because they don't want to tie their design to Unix? For portability? to what?, well to another flavour of Unix called Linux, running on Xen and well, Linux. Is there are real proof that all this microservices crap is really that much better than individual processes (e.g. built with sh, Perl and/or C) running on a fined-tuned Unix system on real hardware? Oh yeah, that's right, high-level guys are too expensive? really? compared to what? to the dozens and dozens of mediocre "coders", "devops", "techops"and whatever other "ops". Yeah, we are way more expensive but we are 50:1, maybe 100:1 compared the median in the "enterprise" side of things. Steve Jobs was so right about the "dynamic range"of A players: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yh7ikSQwKg Anyway, that's my rant of the year ;-) Thanks so much for FreeBSD!! -- Alex
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