Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2018 10:40:29 -0700 From: markham breitbach <markham@ssimicro.com> To: FreeBSD Mailing List <freebsd-questions@freebsd.org> Subject: =?UTF-8?Q?Re:_Meltdown_=e2=80=93_Spectre?= Message-ID: <7844e5a4-2b94-2ada-62ea-4418f088043a@ssimicro.com> In-Reply-To: <aa4bd069-1e7a-c06a-118a-72fdbb311109@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <f9cc484e-be92-7aff-52fe-38655e85dbaa@columbus.rr.com> <CAH78cDqPnOUGoU=6x-BiugnpjmjYcd=CZS3fSNaX5tq-Uvma7g@mail.gmail.com> <bc9ad15b-a718-b901-76fa-bc43ce0c1f1a@columbus.rr.com> <3AECDC7F-8838-4C09-AC7F-117DFBAA326C@sigsegv.be> <20180108085756.GA3001@c720-r314251> <CAGBxaXnSRwtS=mbdsePyKvyZjTpu1tvo2O61SW60yQfdDJH4gA@mail.gmail.com> <48211515-cc6b-522b-ccd2-4d0c1f6a2072@columbus.rr.com> <CAGBxaXm=6NbZ%2Bcz6WGB7YY7NT_%2BxOhdxb17ORTsQs5e7RvqKaQ@mail.gmail.com> <44279dcb-7b15-865a-ca71-938b3832d0e7@columbus.rr.com> <aa4bd069-1e7a-c06a-118a-72fdbb311109@kicp.uchicago.edu>
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> > The fact that FreeBSD still works on this problem whereas Microsoft > and Linux kernel folks already released their patches to me speaks > highly of FreeBSD. FreeBSD appears to do really thorough job. As > example, I would mention this: Linux (CentOS aka "binary replica" of > RedHat Enterprise) often after releasing kernel patch, releases second > kernel patch 2-3 days later. Which makes all who maintain parks of > Linux machines and patch them promptly reboot the machines twice in a > course of few days. There are special cases sometimes, but mostly this > is indication of not thorough enough work. I don't remember similar > things happen to FreeBSD. This pretty much reminds me how someone > concluded that ATI does more thorough work on drivers compared to > NVIDIA, pointing to the fact that ATI releases drivers only twice a > year, whereas NVIDIA has to constantly release drivers updates: Monthly. > > Just my $0.02 > > Valeri > It also appears that Microsoft and Linux a fair amount of extra lead time. I understand they were notified about this back in October ort November, while FreeBSD did not get notified until December. -M
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