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Date:      Wed, 23 Sep 1998 02:23:53 -0700 (PDT)
From:      Enkhyl <enkhyl@hayseed.net>
To:        "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@time.cdrom.com>
Cc:        rotel@indigo.ie, ben@rosengart.com, "Dag-Erling C. Smrgrav" <dag-erli@ifi.uio.no>, current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: shouting in a void? 
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.04.9809230217230.7786-100000@hillbilly.hayseed.net>
In-Reply-To: <1741.906532095@time.cdrom.com>

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On Tue, 22 Sep 1998, Jordan K. Hubbard wrote:

> > I'd just like to say that expecting -current users to follow CVS
> > logs is just unrealistic, which is what Dag-Erling was proposing,
> 
> No, it's really not.  I can't imagine running -current without reading
> the CVS logs, expecially if I had any desire to build from /usr/src on
> a regular basis.  Sometimes committers announce stuff which will break
> you on -current, and sometimes (more often still) they just forget. :)
> The CVS logs are always the final and most definitive indicator for
> -current's state of health.

I definitely agree with Jordan on this (not that my opinion necessarily
matters to anyone :). There have been a few times in the last few weeks
during all the major changes when the CVS logs contained good information
about gotchas. I also find it to be an excellent learning tool for someone
that might not know all the intricacies of the kernel and subsystems. Not
to mention, many of the developers have a good sense of humor, making some
of the messages rather humorous. :)

I know, I know... e-mail can be hard enough to sort through without all
the commit messages flying by, but I've found them to be invaluable.

Just my $0.02

-- 
Christopher Nielsen
Scient: The Art and Science of Electronic Business
cnielsen@scient.com
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