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Date:      Thu, 4 Mar 1999 14:40:53 -0500 (EST)
From:      "John S. Dyson" <dyson@iquest.net>
To:        bpechter@shell.monmouth.com
Cc:        atrn@zeta.org.au, freebsd-advocacy@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Crongratulations to all at USENIX
Message-ID:  <199903041940.OAA00205@y.dyson.net>
In-Reply-To: <199903041253.HAA00598@pechter.ddns.org> from Bill Pechter at "Mar 4, 99 07:53:23 am"

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Bill Pechter said:
> > John Dyson writes:
> > > FreeBSD's future is not hanging on technical excellence right now,
> > > but on marketing.  The technical excellence is a given.
> > 
> > Although I didn't say it in the mail I was hoping to imply that
> > this technical excellence be used as a marketing angle ... Which
> > platform do researchers use for their Unix R&D? And why they pick
> > FreeBSD.
> 
> Interesting, but Lucent's now using Linux. (*I keep pushing FreeBSD
> but Linux has more mind share*)
> 
Before the AT&T and Lucent split, I tried to convince the Inferno marketing
to support FreeBSD -- to no avail, but they did support Linux.  This was a long
time ago, when frothing advocacy was more predominant in Linux (probably because
there was little sane advocacy.)

Before I left AT&T (after split), I had a strong possibility of a funded effort
to work on FreeBSD, but I found a job in the Bay area which on the face of it
looked better for FreeBSD.  Alas, a combo of changes at my employer, and a
problem with FreeBSD strategic direction, FreeBSD is now pretty much gone
from there also...  It is being used for development, but not in product.

Where I work, there was a window for FreeBSD (which I believe that JKH,
YAHOO and others opened), but that window closed with several unfortunate
(for FreeBSD) events.  I was the last very strong advocate.  I could still
advocate it, but without the multi-platform capabilities of the alternatives,
(or a future direction more applicable than the alternatives for multi-platform
support) I would appear to be one of those mindless and frothing people.

Alas, this has made it hard for me to justify significant effort on FreeBSD,
and mostly act as an advisor and user.  (I get to hack on FreeBSD a little
though, look forward to the time that I can allocate, and really enjoy it.)

-- 
John                  | Never try to teach a pig to sing,
dyson@iquest.net      | it makes one look stupid
jdyson@nc.com         | and it irritates the pig.


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