Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2018 05:01:11 +0200 From: Tomasz Rola <rtomek@ceti.pl> To: Valeri Galtsev <galtsev@kicp.uchicago.edu> Cc: freebsd-questions@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Alternative to x11/gnome3 ? Message-ID: <20180812030111.GB28109@tau1.ceti.pl> In-Reply-To: <1d0a7981-e564-5726-1d20-bdade411c184@kicp.uchicago.edu> References: <20180731014358.GA925@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180731195608.40cee639.freebsd@edvax.de> <20180801024324.GA20419@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180801165950.6bb77eabf97c862866d13ecf@sohara.org> <20180808161156.GA66626@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <20180808172413.9759288eaa75f6a8024417c8@sohara.org> <20180808163722.GA67368@admin.sibptus.transneft.ru> <2b5cf789-e846-aac0-d33a-39dd71d55f65@kicp.uchicago.edu> <20180808194846.61e5e0de.freebsd@edvax.de> <1d0a7981-e564-5726-1d20-bdade411c184@kicp.uchicago.edu>
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On Wed, Aug 08, 2018 at 01:00:15PM -0500, Valeri Galtsev wrote: > > > On 08/08/18 12:48, Polytropon wrote: [...] > >work, simply because gdm says "FSCK YOU!" and continues > >doing its own startup, tied to the Gnome 2 desktop. ;-) > > > > Wow, Herr Polytropon, you made my day by using filesystem check > command in very unusual way. Made me laugh for several minutes ;-) On alt.sysadmin.recovery they were doing lots of those "checks" on pretty much everybody and everything. That was twent...uhrrumphugh so many years ago. It looks like the group is still alive but apparently they curse too little, I have no idea if they are real. As of display managers, I disable those every time I can, as well as few other things (hal and one or two other daemons whose names I forgot). The price for it is horrible: this is single user system, running outdated Linux (I am going to upgrade, of course, but I am afraid it will not be Linux this time). Also, I start X using startx. When I shared system with my sister, she was able to learn everything needed, like to type "startx -- :1" or switching via Ctrl-Alt-Fn but users are so spoiled these days. I think this comes from them hearing "UNIX is hard to use" - in the past, users were told what to do and they just did it if they wanted to use a computer, without arrogant expectations. My own alternative to Gnome3 is FVWM. But I cannot recommend it to everybody. Myself, I am very happy however. I almost do not use menus at all - run everything from terminal emulators. If anything goes bonky, at least there is something to read about it. -- Regards, Tomasz Rola -- ** A C programmer asked whether computer had Buddha's nature. ** ** As the answer, master did "rm -rif" on the programmer's home ** ** directory. And then the C programmer became enlightened... ** ** ** ** Tomasz Rola mailto:tomasz_rola@bigfoot.com **
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