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Date:      Fri, 13 Jul 2001 16:42:56 -0400
From:      User & Ian Patrick Thomas <ipthomas_77@yahoo.com>
To:        Robert John Hall <rjhalljr@starpower.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@freebsd.org
Subject:   Re: Xwindows has stopped working
Message-ID:  <20010713164256.C3028@localhost>
In-Reply-To: <20010712234131.A809@staunton.bodd-der.net>; from rjhalljr@starpower.net on Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 11:41:31PM -0400
References:  <20010711222513.A275@staunton.bodd-der.net> <01071123344000.00559@i8k.babbleon.org> <20010712234131.A809@staunton.bodd-der.net>

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	What version of FreeBSD are you using?  I had the same problem
accessing XFree with my security level set to high even after installing
wrapper from the ports.  I was running 3.x Stable though.  Since installing
4.3 and XFree 4 from the ports, the problem seems to have disappeared.  Try
lowering the kern_secure_level in rc.conf.

Ian

As it was put forth by Robert John Hall on Thu, Jul 12, 2001 at 11:41:31PM -0400...
> On Wed, Jul 11, 2001 at 11:34:40PM -0400, Brian T . Schellenberger wrote:
> > though: I thought that was one.  In any case, to look up errnos, just do
> > 
> > man errno
> 
> Thanks. It hadn't occured to me that there would be a man page for error 
> numbers. It's taking me a while to used the fact that there is a man
> page for everything. My previous Unix experience doesn't extend much
> past emacs and logging in to other people's mail servers to check if
> they're being used to relay spam to me.
>  
> > I would remove the xdm/kdm setup, however you did that (most common approch 
> > is to set the default run level form 3 to 5, so reverse it back to 3).  Then 
> 
> After digging in the man pages and Lehey's book, I think I've figured out
> what xdm is. I don't use it. However, if I start it up at the command 
> line, it brings up a twm window with some stuff I haven't seen in a twm
> window before. Checkpoints and some other stuff. 
> 
> I prefer xinit and startx, but I can get by with starting xdm as root 
> from the console while I learn to debug. All I need it for is
> Netscape. I definitely want startx back, though.
> 
> > you can start up the server by hand and you'll get much more helpful 
> > diagnostics where you can easily find them.
> > 
> > In general, walking (line-mode, bring up X by hand a few times) before 
> > running is a good idea . . .
> 
> A little more background: Xwindows has been running fine for a couple
> of weeks. We had a brief thunderstorm the night before I rebooted and
> had no screen. I shut down the computer when I heard the storm, but
> I restarted after it passed. I'm guessing that a line spike reset some
> critical bit. I get the Xwindows screen (black and white pattern with
> an X for the mouse cursor). When I run XF86Setup, it tells me that I 
> have a working server. I found the -probeonly option on the
> startx man page. That gave me the message
>    xf86OpenConsole: Server must be running with root permissions.
>    You should be using Xwrapper to start the server or xdm.
> Xwrapper has been installed from the beginning. I'm guessing that
> X has somehow lost the ability to use Xwrapper. I've tried looking 
> this up in the archives and on freebsd.org, but nothing has come
> up. If I enter 
>    # Xwrapper
> then I get the same screen I get with startx. So Xwrapper seems to 
> work, but obviously doesn't read the configuration files that bring
> up the good stuff. I think that's xinit's job. So the disconnect
> seems to be between xinit and Xwrapper. 
> 
> I can start X with xinit, only as root, and get a single xterm. 
> Nothing else. From the info in the xinit man page, this suggests 
> X (or xinit) can't find the xinitrc file any longer. 
> xinitrc is still where it's always been.
> 
> I think that starting X from the command line, which is what I've
> been doing all along, is what you mean by "starting X by hand".
> If not, please clue me in.
> 
> Thank you, and Chris Fedde, and Ian Patrick Thomas for your suggestions.
> I'm a lot futher now than I would have been otherwise. But I'm 
> stuck again. Does anyone have any suggestions on how to proceed
> next? If my guess about xinit not being able to use Xwrapper is 
> correct, can someone tell me how to trouble shoot this?
> 
> Bob Hall
> 
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