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Date:      Thu, 28 Mar 2002 11:56:43 -0800 (PST)
From:      Doug White <dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu>
To:        Aditya <aditya@grot.org>
Cc:        freebsd-stable@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: serial console vs. serial terminal
Message-ID:  <20020328115551.R33831-100000@resnet.uoregon.edu>
In-Reply-To: <20020327212329.GA19556@mighty.grot.org>

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On Wed, 27 Mar 2002, Aditya wrote:

> On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 12:14:14PM -0800, Doug White wrote:
> > > however, if I connect to them from a Cyclades T2000 terminal server using a
> > > cat5 patch cable and a RJ45-DB9F modular adapter I can't type anything in but
> > > I do see output (ie. from syslog). The most bizzare thing is if I reboot with:
> >
> > That sounds like the getty isn't coming up. It isn't complaining about
> > cycling endlessly, is it?
>
> it isn't complaining and getty is definitely coming up as I can take a stock
> db9-db9 null modem and interact fine...
>
> > Also make sure you're using the right pinout on your cable; the Cyclades
> > pins aren't the same as Cisco's.  We usually custom-build them.
>
> This is probably part of the "problem" -- using a patch cable I'm using the
> following pinouts (essentially DCE), do you have a better set?:
>

>    Pin # Signal Color
>    2     TxD    Black
> -  3     RxD    Yellow
>    5     Gnd    Red

You should probably try a fully wired adapter. Unfortuantely I don't have
the pinouts in front of me.

> > It seems that your serial port(s) are locking up; the console output
> > "wakes them up."  Can you try connecting to the port with cu (in internal
> > console, not serial) on the FreeBSD machine, ssh in to the TS2000 on the
> > other, and talk between yourselves?
>
> yup, did that and when I type on either side I don't get a "local" echo but
> see the output on the "remote" side...
>
> > AFAIK FreeBSD doesn't require carrier to be asserted for getty to wake up.
> > If you hit <ENTER> a few times on the tty it should give you a login
> > prompt.
>
> It's not taking input, but if I set syslogd to send *.err to * and then use
> logger to syslog something, then it shows up...

But you still can't get getty to wake up?

It so happens we have a spare TS2000 in the office today, I'll try rigging
it up.

Doug White                    |  FreeBSD: The Power to Serve
dwhite@resnet.uoregon.edu     |  www.FreeBSD.org


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