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Date:      Thu, 12 Dec 2002 22:23:53 -0700 (MST)
From:      "Ronald G. Minnich" <rminnich@lanl.gov>
To:        Mike Hoskins <mike@adept.org>
Cc:        freebsd-cluster@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: (long, warm & fuzzy) Re: sharing files within a cluster
Message-ID:  <Pine.LNX.4.44.0212122217050.22661-100000@carotid.ccs.lanl.gov>
In-Reply-To: <20021212133117.D2430-100000@fubar.adept.org>

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On Thu, 12 Dec 2002, Mike Hoskins wrote:

> Please understand that this state of "teed off" is, for the most part,
> what BSD advocates feel like all the time...

I'm familiar with it. I was one. 

> I think some of the rendering farms that have been BSD based, while
> possibly not showing an area uniquely suited to BSD, do clearly show that
> there would be plenty of demand for BSD clusters.

that's not so convincing, because if there would be plenty of demand we 
would see it. We should be seeing it. Again, you have to look at where 
those third-party apps are -- compilers and so on. And, sadly, it's not on 
freebsd. 

> The same was said for M$ when Linux was born.  :)  It's funny that many of
> the arguments that are now made for Linux have historically been made for
> Windows.  I really hope M$ doesn't decide to muck around in the Linux
> world as they've implied...  They could only make things worse.  (Granted,
> there would be lots of money invested.)

To a joe average user, the guy who buys the boxes, the difference between 
freebsd and linux is ... well, what precisely. They're both pretty good. 

So, the key question: what's the compelling advantage of freebsd for the 
guy who writes the checks. How would running freebsd make life better? 

The move to "some open source Unix" from "some really expensive Unix" was 
a clear win ten years ago. But the move from "some open source Unix" to 
"some other open source Unix" is a really hard sell. 

So, what would freebsd do to make a cluster person's life better, given 
that they will give up a lot? That's what we would have to answer.

ron



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