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Date:      Sat, 28 Mar 2009 20:10:35 +0100
From:      =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ermal_Lu=E7i?= <eri@freebsd.org>
To:        Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org>
Cc:        freebsd-net@freebsd.org, Ash Gokhale <ash@aeria.net>
Subject:   Re: netgraph modules won't unload after use
Message-ID:  <9a542da30903281210v1b4ce5a6w148bb60a8a6bc90c@mail.gmail.com>
In-Reply-To: <49C11E56.7090809@elischer.org>
References:  <6CBA0923-DAF1-4FD5-A670-F5888BCA47B1@aeria.net> <49C11E56.7090809@elischer.org>

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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 5:16 PM, Julian Elischer <julian@elischer.org> wrot=
e:
> Ash Gokhale wrote:
>>
>> =A0I'm developing a kernel module that will be doing inspection and need=
ed
>> access to raw network frames,
>> =A0so I turned to netgraph =A0as the solution.However it seems that netg=
raph
>> will not permit a module
>> =A0to unload once it's participated in a mkpeer/connect operation. Reboo=
ting
>> to remove a module is
>> =A0angrymaking (not like mtx/sleep crashes).
>>
>> =A0 =A0This going into the kernel because my bpf based userland stuff is
>> probably not going to hold up to the packet rate.
>>
>> Should I file a PR? Or is there magic in the documentation I havn't foun=
d?
>>
>>
>> I've observed the trouble in 7.0 release, and tonight's =A07_RELENG, wit=
h
>> GENERIC + WITNESS/INVARIANTS
>>
>> The module code =A0( cobbled together from netgraph/ng_sample.c / ng_ech=
o.c)
>> http://pastebin.com/m31b6ece6
>>
>> The module loads and unloads fine until connected to a netgraph hook:
>
> hmm they are supposed to, and they did in the past..
> let me check...
>
> root@trafmon1:kldload ng_ether
> root@trafmon1:ifconfig
> bge0: flags=3D8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1=
500
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0options=3D9b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HW=
CSUM>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ether 00:11:43:30:fb:8a
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0inet 10.7.2.3 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.7.2.255
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0status: active
> bge1: flags=3D8802<BROADCAST,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0options=3D9b<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,VLAN_HW=
CSUM>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ether 00:11:43:30:fb:8b
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0media: Ethernet autoselect (none)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0status: no carrier
> fxp0: flags=3D8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1=
500
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0options=3Db<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU>
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ether 00:0e:0c:62:aa:14
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0inet 10.7.0.101 netmask 0xffffff00 broadcast 10.7.0.255
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0media: Ethernet autoselect (100baseTX <full-duplex>)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0status: active
> lo0: flags=3D8049<UP,LOOPBACK,RUNNING,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 16384
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0inet 127.0.0.1 netmask 0xff000000
> root@trafmon1:ngctl
> + list
> There are 4 total nodes:
> =A0Name: bge0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000002 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> =A0Name: bge1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000003 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> =A0Name: ngctl4252 =A0 =A0 =A0 Type: socket =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ID: 000000=
05 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> =A0Name: fxp0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000004 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> + mkpeer bge0: hole lower hook
> + list
> There are 5 total nodes:
> =A0Name: <unnamed> =A0 =A0 =A0 Type: hole =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ID: 0000=
0006 =A0 Num hooks: 1
> =A0Name: bge0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000002 =A0 Num hooks: 1
> =A0Name: bge1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000003 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> =A0Name: ngctl4252 =A0 =A0 =A0 Type: socket =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ID: 000000=
05 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> =A0Name: fxp0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000004 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> + shutdown [6]:
> + list
> There are 4 total nodes:
> =A0Name: bge0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000002 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> =A0Name: bge1 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000003 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> =A0Name: ngctl4252 =A0 =A0 =A0 Type: socket =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0ID: 000000=
05 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> =A0Name: fxp0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Type: ether =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 ID: =
00000004 =A0 Num hooks: 0
> + quit
> root@trafmon1:kldstat -v
> Id Refs Address =A0 =A0Size =A0 =A0 Name
> =A01 =A0 36 0xc0400000 6a9c28 =A0 kernel (/boot/kernel/kernel)
>
> [...]
>
> =A07 =A0 =A01 0xccb16000 4000 =A0 =A0 ng_ether.ko (/boot/kernel/ng_ether.=
ko)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Contains modules:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Id Name
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0246 ng_ether
> =A08 =A0 =A01 0xccb1b000 2000 =A0 =A0 ng_hole.ko (/boot/kernel/ng_hole.ko=
)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Contains modules:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Id Name
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0247 ng_hole
> root@trafmon1:klunload ng_hole
> klunload: Command not found.
> root@trafmon1:kldunload ng_hole
> root@trafmon1:kldunload ng_ether
> kldunload: can't unload file: Device busy
> root@trafmon1:kldstat -v
> Id Refs Address =A0 =A0Size =A0 =A0 Name
> =A01 =A0 36 0xc0400000 6a9c28 =A0 kernel (/boot/kernel/kernel)
>
> [...]
>
> =A07 =A0 =A01 0xccb16000 4000 =A0 =A0 ng_ether.ko (/boot/kernel/ng_ether.=
ko)
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Contains modules:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0Id Name
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0246 ng_ether
> root@trafmon1:
>
>
> this is expected. =A0ng-ether is not unloadable as the connections are to=
o
> complicated to unwind easily.. one day....
>
> root@trafmon1:
>
>>> Stop in /root/tmp/food.ko.
>>> Exit 1
>>> #Mar 18 03:14:31 =A0kernel: quiesced
>>> =A0:ro:~/tmp/food.ko:3:14:31:32
>>> Mar 18 03:14:31 =A0kernel: foodmod unloaded
>>
>>
>> Seems that I can't unload some of the other netgraph types either ( it's
>> not just me):
>>
>>> #kldunload ng_ether
>>> :ro:~/tmp/food.ko:3:24:07:41
>>> kldunload: can't unload file: Device busy
>>> Exit 1
>
> try unloading a node that IS unloadable..
>
> see the following comment in ng_ehter.c:
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 /*
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0* Note that the base code won't try to unload us until
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0* all nodes have been removed, and that can't happen
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0* until all Ethernet interfaces are removed. In any
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0* case, we know there are no nodes left if the action
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0* is MOD_UNLOAD, so there's no need to detach any node=
s.
> =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 =A0*/
>
> so we can't run this unless you have removeable ethernet interfaces, and
> have removed them.
>
>
>
Just saw the message.
Actually ng_ether can be unloaded but this is left at your own risk
and there is a comment in code about this.
for each $if in `ifconfig -l`
ngctl shutdown $if:
kldunload ng_ether

This brings the question that should ng_ether be taught about ifnet
events(arrival/departure)?!

--=20
Ermal



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