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Date:      Tue, 2 Dec 1997 18:43:01 +1100
From:      Greg Lehey <grog@lemis.com>
To:        "Jamil J. Weatherbee" <jamil@trojanhorse.ml.org>
Cc:        Ian Freislich <iang@digs.iafrica.com>, Satoshi Asami <asami@cs.berkeley.edu>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Drive Mirroring
Message-ID:  <19971202184301.28646@lemis.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSF.3.96.971201210301.194A-100000@trojanhorse.ml.org>; from Jamil J. Weatherbee on Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 09:05:47PM -0800
References:  <E0xccrm-0004EW-00@brane.digs.iafrica.com> <Pine.BSF.3.96.971201210301.194A-100000@trojanhorse.ml.org>

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On Mon, Dec 01, 1997 at 09:05:47PM -0800, Jamil J. Weatherbee wrote:
>
>> "Jamil J. Weatherbee"...
>>> One problem with this: If the system is rebooted with only one drive it
>>> crashes, second you cannot do a out of the box install on ccded drives so
>>> they are pretty useless tom me for anything but data.
>>>
>>> I actually tried the exact scenario you suggest.
>>
>> This doesn't really make sense to me. I know that you can't do an
>> install onto a ccd (which is a source of irritation for me) but I
>> have a number of servers at work which I have setup or helped setup
>> that have all of their file systems mirrored except for /.
>>
>> I'll admit it's a little laborious to setup, but it can be done.
>> I do a minimal install, create the ccds, copy stuff around and then
>> install source and the rest of the stuff that I want.
>>
>> I'm unsure why you don't want to use ccd.
>
> The main problem has to do with the kind of people that need to be able to
> make the system work when it crashes.  We are not talking about unix
> geniuses here it is just their web server and If a disk stops they want to
> have it replaced later without stopping the system for 24 hours to get
> someone knowledgeable out there to fix it.  This is my main concern.  And
> in this respect it looks like rdist might work for me but there are still
> some security issues I need to resolve + that rdist doesn't do continuous
> updates like ccd.

rdist isn't really replicated.  ccd is, but the fact that it won't
recover from a crash makes it all but useless.  As you point out,
without experienced personnel, if a disk dies you could spend longer
reconfiguring than reading in a backup.  This doesn't have to be that
way, of course.  My RAID solution will not crash if a component goes
down.

Greg



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