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Date:      Sat, 28 Mar 1998 17:30:50 +1100
From:      Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
To:        Amanda <xdn@firehouse.net>
Cc:        freebsd-newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Rant: What are we?
Message-ID:  <19980328173050.17158@welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.BSI.3.95.980328005147.22422A-100000@shell.firehouse.net>; from Amanda on Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 12:58:55AM -0500
References:  <19980328142134.33048@welearn.com.au> <Pine.BSI.3.95.980328005147.22422A-100000@shell.firehouse.net>

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On Sat, Mar 28, 1998 at 12:58:55AM -0500, Amanda wrote:
> Well Sue..
> 	I agree with you and will back you up 100% on the newbie list.
> Alot of people (newbies) feel overwhelmed by emailing a question mailing
> list. They sometimes feel dumb because of all the knowledge that floats
> around them. I know I sure did. I like this list because I can learn from
> other people. When a newbie makes a mistake etc. I also understand why
> freebsd-newbies cannot be a question/answer place because hence *NEW*bie
> which means alot of the people are at the same knowledge level with the
> operating system (not to discriminate anyone). But I do know alot of
> newbies will think this is a question and answer type place, I did at
> first.

I know this is tricky. It's so easy to assume that newbies means problems.
What we've seen, though, is a lot of people who are interested in what they
are doing and doing well most of the time.

The list's purpose was described simply in two lines. It could have been
longer. Once it was a whole screenful. The two-liner has the advantage of
leaving it fairly free for the participants to make of it what they want
within reason. There wasn't room to say "but sound issues to -multimedia,
java to -java, questions to -questions, security to -security, ..." and
it didn't seem necessary to spell it all out when there's a perfectly
good list of them at http://www.freebsd.org/handbook/handbook317.html

Well I was wrong.

Here is the long version which I think reflects the assorted interests of
the newbies who have participated so far. I wonder, however, if the
people who are confused by two lines of text are going to be any less
confused by ten. What do you think?


FREEBSD-NEWBIES

FreeBSD-Newbies is a discussion forum for newbies. We cover any of the
activities of newbies that are not already dealt with elsewhere. Examples
include helping each other to learn more on our own, finding and using
resources, problem solving techniques, how to seek help elsewhere, how to
use mailing lists and which lists to use, general chat, making mistakes,
boasting, sharing ideas, stories, moral (but not technical) support,
promoting FreeBSD among our friends, and taking an active part in the
FreeBSD community. We take our problems and support questions to
freebsd-questions, and use freebsd-newbies to meet others who are doing
the same things that we do as newbies.



> But no one wants to get their questions answered by someone not
> sure. It is okay if you know for sure.. but sometimes you think you know
> the answer when you don't. Maybe we should make the chat a learn from our
> mistake type place where people share their mistakes so others can learn
> from that? Don't know, just a suggestion. :) But I am 100% in agreement
> with you Sue. I hope this mailing list goes well for you and everyone
> subscribing to it. 


Thanks Amanda :-)


-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-

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