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Date:      Thu, 12 Jul 2001 08:19:14 -0700
From:      "Kevin Oberman" <oberman@es.net>
To:        Bob Hall <rjhalljr@starpower.net>
Cc:        freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Installing fvwm from 4.3 RELEASE 
Message-ID:  <200107121519.f6CFJEA20489@ptavv.es.net>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:30:13 EDT." <v04220800b771314a8bc5@[66.44.65.200]> 

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> Date: Tue, 10 Jul 2001 19:30:13 -0400
> From: Bob Hall <rjhalljr@starpower.net>
> Sender: owner-freebsd-questions@FreeBSD.ORG
> 
> Parv,
> 
> Thanks for the answer. I downloaded your response to my posting onto 
> my Unix box while I was testing mutt. Since I haven't figured out how 
> to get nullmailer and mutt to work together yet, I can't respond from 
> that machine. So I'm responding from the Mac, and I'm not going to 
> try to quote the entire message by retyping it.
> 
> Here's all the info on my non-functioning fvwm installation that I've 
> posted so far:
> 
> 1) If I try to call fvwm with anything except
>     fvwm2 &
> in xinitrc, fvwm won't start at all.
> 
> 2) When I start fvwm, I get the desktop with some vaguely 3-D xterms. 
> The windows have no buttons, and I can't move them or resize them. I 
> can get only one menu, with only one functioning selection: Quit fvwm.
> 
> 3) I can get fully functional instances of twm, blackbox, and 
> enlightenment by calling them in xinitrc with
>     <window manager name> &
> Fully functional means that I was able to click buttons on the window 
> frames, iconify the windows, resize them, etc. None of this was 
> possible in fvwm.
> 
> 4) xinitrc is not a dot file in my installation.
> 
> In answer to your question, this is a brand new FreeBSD installation, 
> and all the fvwm files are from the fvwm package on the first cd of 
> the FreeBSD 4.3 RELEASE cd collection. This is version 2.2.4. I have 
> no files from previous or later versions.
> 
> Further info: typing the following command after installation returns nothing:
>     find /usr -name "*fvwm2rc*"
> 
> As near as I can figure out, the window manager packages are supposed 
> to work without needing any configuration after installation, aside 
> from calling them in xinitrc. That's the case with the three that I 
> have successfully started.

While FVWM2 "works" without any .fvwm2rc file, it's pretty near
useless. No window decorations or menus defined. Sounds a lot like
what you are seeing.

Try one of the sample .fvwm2rc sample files included in the
distribution and you should have something REALLY functional. I've
never installed FVWM2 from either package or port, so I'm not quite
sure where the files are placed. (I have not used fvwm2 since I turned
off my old SPARCstation 1 about two years ago, so my memory is fuzzy.)

R. Kevin Oberman, Network Engineer
Energy Sciences Network (ESnet)
Ernest O. Lawrence Berkeley National Laboratory (Berkeley Lab)
E-mail: oberman@es.net			Phone: +1 510 486-8634

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