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Date:      Sat, 23 Feb 2002 21:27:39 -0500
From:      "Jeff Palmer" <scorpio@drkshdw.org>
To:        <freebsd-security@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Couple of concerns with default rc.firewall
Message-ID:  <003b01c1bcda$d4f06020$0286a8c0@home.lan>

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Hi all.

I have a few concerns with the default /etc/rc.firewall.
It's fairly common practice (and typically considered to be the most =
secure practice) to build a default-to-deny firewall.  Only traffic that =
yous pecifically allow, can pass.

Taking this into consideration,  I checked 'man firewall' and find that =
it too, agrees with the above.

Having said that... is where we get into my problem.
I compile my kernel with ipfw support.  Without the default_to_allow. =
and use a slightly modified "simple" configuration.  This,  by default =
denies all incoming icmp.
So, I again referred back to 'man firewall' and again,  it agrees with =
my thinking..  Certain ICMP types are beneficial, and should not be =
denied (especially considering most users probably aren't "into" =
security  so they use a default firewall if any at all.)

Is there any reason in particular,  that ALL icmp traffic is denied by =
default,   except for using the 'open' ruleset?
Or is this just a simple oversight,  that needs to be examined?

Thanks in advance for any feedback.
Also,   thanks for NOT flaming me if I've missed something obvious.


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<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Hi all.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I have a few concerns with the default=20
/etc/rc.firewall.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>It's fairly common practice (and typically =
considered to be=20
the most secure practice) to build a default-to-deny firewall.&nbsp; =
Only=20
traffic that yous pecifically allow, can pass.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Taking this into consideration,&nbsp; I checked 'man =
firewall'=20
and find that it too, agrees with the above.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Having said that... is where we get into my=20
problem.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>I&nbsp;compile my kernel with ipfw support.&nbsp; =
Without the=20
default_to_allow. and use a&nbsp;slightly modified "simple" =
configuration.&nbsp;=20
This,&nbsp; by default denies all incoming icmp.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>So,&nbsp;I again referred back to 'man=20
firewall'</FONT>&nbsp;<FONT size=3D2>and again,&nbsp; it agrees with my=20
thinking..&nbsp; Certain ICMP types are beneficial, and should not be =
denied=20
(especially considering most users probably aren't "into" security&nbsp; =
so they=20
use a default firewall if any at all.)</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Is there any reason in particular,&nbsp; that ALL =
icmp traffic=20
is denied by default,&nbsp;&nbsp; except for using the 'open'=20
ruleset?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Or is this just a simple oversight,&nbsp; that needs =
to be=20
examined?</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Thanks in advance for any feedback.</FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT size=3D2>Also,&nbsp;&nbsp; thanks for NOT flaming me if I've =
missed=20
something obvious.</FONT></DIV>
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