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Date:      Mon, 30 Dec 2002 08:49:38 -0600
From:      "Joe Gwozdecki" <joegw@hal-pc.org>
To:        "Stephen Hilton" <nospam@hiltonbsd.com>, <adamw@FreeBSD.ORG>, <cls@raggedclown.net>
Cc:        <FreeBSD-questions@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: adduser .. revisited, an apology
Message-ID:  <00c301c2b012$adcf7770$0300000a@lyon>
References:  <20021229185302.GA291@raggedclown.net><200212292050.GBTKOTK38979@asarian-host.net><20021229214046.GG1181@raggedclown.net><20021230104926.GL215@vectors.cx> <20021230084202.0530d91e.nospam@hiltonbsd.com>

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> On Mon, 30 Dec 2002 02:49:26 -0800
> Adam Weinberger <adamw@FreeBSD.ORG> wrote:
> 
> > The whole point of this email has been entirely overlooked: to someone
> > who is unfamiliar with adduser, the initial configuration questions
> > aren't identifiable as such. Perhaps a note such as "Answers to the
> > following questions will be used as rules for future user additions:" Or
> > something that makes more sense.
> 
> I agree with Adam, this bit me in the past also thinking that 
> the "Usernames must match regular expression: " prompt was asking 
> for the new users name, then also munging up my /etc/adduser.conf 
> file with my proposed new users name, instead of the regular exp. 
> This was all pilot error, but an easy error for a new admin/user 
> to make.
> 
> ----------------------snip--------------------------
> desktop># adduser
> /etc/adduser.conf: No such file or directory
> Use option ``-silent'' if you don't want to see all warnings and questions.
> 
> Check /etc/shells
> Check /etc/master.passwd
> Check /etc/group
> Usernames must match regular expression: 
> [^[a-z0-9_][a-z0-9_-]*$]: 
> ----------------------snip--------------------------
> 
> Especially unfriendly to a very new admin/user, who should 
> probably be referred to /stand/sysinstall post-install 
> configuration.  Remember that as a new user to FreeBSD/UNIX 
> one of the first recommended steps is to get a non-root 
> login, and use it!.
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Stephen Hilton
> nospam@hiltonbsd.com
> 
When you see a short coming like this, is there
not some way to get it put into the software and/or
FreeBSD handbook?  

I myself have seen an incident, which if it just had
a couple of more words of explanation added, 
would eliminate a great deal of confusion.

Where do you go with suggestions for changes?

Joe Gwozdecki
Houston, Texas



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