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Date:      Tue, 25 Sep 2001 21:57:30 +0200 (CEST)
From:      Salvo Bartolotta <bartequi@neomedia.it>
To:        Konstantinos Konstantinidis <kkonstan@duth.gr>, Rahul Siddharthan <rsidd@physics.iisc.ernet.in>
Cc:        chat@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: helping victims of terror
Message-ID:  <1001447850.3bb0e1aa11dfc@webmail.neomedia.it>

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> It is easy to dismiss a case of a lone terrorist as an act of lunacy or
> whatever, but it takes a cause (whether it is just or not is irrelevant
> and only history will be the judge of that) for so many people to team
> up and conspire and execute a plan as complex as that, especially one
> which involves the planned death of members of the team.




I won't discuss the mistakes USA has/have made and/or the right and/or the 
type and extent of the [military] measures to be taken.  Nobody has clean 
hands here. ;-)



<hypothesis>

Let us suppose for one moment that, in Islamic countries, each and every [real 
or perceived as such] cause for hatred for the USA and the Western world were 
removed.  In particular, in Afghanistan.


<Important Preliminary Remark>

Islam != "Islamic" fundamentalism

In the past centuries (especially VIII, IX, X, XI A.D.), one of the most 
important and widespread civilizations was Islamic; its achievements can still 
be seen and admired today; and the Western World, as well as Western Culture, 
is greatly indebted to it.

As certain Islamic authorities have pointed out in the past few days, the 
Koran neither speaks of "holy war" nor says that such crimes and/or atrocities 
as those committed on September 11 are "holy" in any sense whatsoever. 

Rather, BION, Islam is essentially a religion of **peace**.

</Important Preliminary Remark>


<yet another remark> 
The cavemen which^H^H^H^H^Hwho live in Afghanistan and other ahem "Islamic" 
countries have NOTHING to do with Islam.  They could be using **any** 
**other** **pretext** for their troglodyte behavio(u)r.  In other words, 
religio instrumentum regni.

<distortion of other religions for political purposes snipped>

</yet another remark>


The destruction of the statues of Buddha should not be dismissed as "folklore" 
and/or suchlike.  It is indicative of a well-defined ahem "vision" of the 
world, viz no idea of human rights, and no room for women's rights at all. Eg 
women are refused studies, professions, etc.  <"cultural features" snipped>
 
It is interesting to note that, by contrast, **actual** primitive men did 
leave us paintings, monuments, etc.  <Prehistory considerations, comparisons, 
etc snipped>  

As a corollary of the above-mentioned vision, obviously, the Western World is 
completely wrong, and, of course, irremediably corrupt.  More generally, any 
vision of the world that goes past *that* troglodyte level is [completely] 
wrong, and [irremediably] corrupt.

Thus, western countries at large set a very, very, very bad example.  Even if 
there were **no** cause whatsoever for hatred, as I have supposed, the Western 
World would nevertheless appear (at best) filthy, if not irreparably/totally 
lost.

I am afraid that the ahem troglodytes in question would perpetrate horrible 
crimes on the western peoples all the same, sooner or later; otherwise stated, 
such a disaster as the WTC one would just be a question of time.

It is their **ideology** that leads them to believe that the Western World, 
its culture, its art, and its way of life have to be destroyed.

</hypothesis>

By the way, nowadays a number of ahem "Muslims" -- coming from a few "Islamic" 
countries --  are invited by their "religious" leaders to deceive western 
(Christian) women into marrying them, with the precise aim of turning these 
women, and their future sons, into slaves -- slaves of a distorted conception 
of Islam. That is, slaves tout court.

Again, this has NOTHING to do with Islam as a civilization and/or as a 
religion.

Sorry for the pessimism. Am I missing something?

-- Salvo

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