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Date:      Fri, 28 Feb 2003 08:44:53 -0500
From:      Bruce Campbell <bruce@engmail.uwaterloo.ca>
To:        geeks@geekazoid.com
Cc:        freebsd-hardware@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: ATA RAID Suggestions
Message-ID:  <1046439893.3e5f67d51e98c@www.nexusmail.uwaterloo.ca>
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I have about 2 weeks experience with 3ware ATA RAID.  All excellent
so far.  I've been successfuly using some low cost ATA drive trays for almost
a year now.  Hardware details at:

http://www.freebsd.uwaterloo.ca/twiki/bin/view/Freebsd/BackupServerHardware

My notes on the 3ware card are at:

http://www.freebsd.uwaterloo.ca/twiki/bin/view/Freebsd/AtaRaid

As for "re-mirroring on the fly" the 3ware card will re-mirror
a replacement drive after bootup, in the background (ie the o/s
can boot and array will function in degraded mode until the rebuild is done)
I have not tried pulling a drive live and replacing it.  I didn't
think ATA was supposed to do that, although I see claims it is
possible from some drive tray makers and controller makers.

> > Geekazoid and Friends wrote:
> >
> > > I am looking for ATA RAID suggestions.  I have tried a Promise FastTrak
> TX2000
> > > with 2 Hot-Swap Trays.  I receive an error message that the controller
> does not
> > > support the 'rebuild' feature of 'atacontrol'.
> > >
> > > So, my question is thus...Can anyone recommend a solid ATA RAID
> Controller that
> > > supports re-mirroring on the fly?  Also, any recommendations about
> hot-swap
> > > trays/bays?
> > >
> > > Any assistance would be Greatly Appreciated!
> > >
> > > Just to be a pain, I am not subscribed to this list.  :-|  Could you
> please
> > > reply 'geeks@geekazoid.com'?
> >
> > I deploy a lot of FreeBSD platforms that use HighPoint HPT370 controllers
> > in an *unmirrored* configuration, for end-of-the-day backups. The HPT370
> > allows me to reliably hot swap *identical* (i.e. ST3400021A) unmounted
> > drives using the following procedure:
> >
> >   1) power down a drive
> >   2) invoke
> >          /sbin/sysctl -w hpt37x2.status="hpt rescan all"
> >      to prod the kernel into realizing that a drive is down
> >   3) swap the drive
> >   4) power up a replacement drive
> >   5) invoke
> >          /sbin/sysctl -w hpt37x2.status="hpt rescan all"
> >      to prod the kernel into realizing that a drive is back on line
> >
> > Observation/question:
> >
> > 1. ATA gurus tell me that ATA detection magic only occurs during a
> >    hard boot. Something beyond my comprehension prevents a PC from
> >    recognizing an ATA drive with a different geometry "on the fly."
> >    Therefore, I use drives with identical geometry for hot swaps.
> >
> > 2. So far, /sbin/sysctl only seems to work with HighPoint controllers.
> >    Does anyone know of any other controller that can accommodate a
> >    hot swap by using /sbin/sysctl?
> >
> > --
> > charms
> >
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-- 
Bruce Campbell
Engineering Computing
CPH-2374B
University of Waterloo
(519)888-4567 ext 5889

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