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Date:      Tue, 13 Mar 2001 22:58:33 +0100
From:      Poul-Henning Kamp <phk@critter.freebsd.dk>
To:        Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
Cc:        grog@lemis.com, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, imp@harmony.village.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Core's function (was: The Project and onward [was: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c]) 
Message-ID:  <11043.984520713@critter>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Tue, 13 Mar 2001 13:43:42 PST." <20010313134342A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> 

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In message <20010313134342A.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>, Jordan Hubbard writes:
>> I have no small amount of faith in what our volounteers can do, but
>> having studied my history, I know that most if not all instances of
>> a mass-effort has been directed by one or a very few persons who have
>> set a goal, waved a flag and issued the battlecry...
>
>I actually agree, I just see no reason why those few flag-waving
>individuals need to come exclusively from core (or as a side-effect of
>some sort of core mandate) at all.

The problem is, some kinds of flag-waving people expect from core.

A lot of people have the perception that they need cores nod to start
things "offcially".  Take projects.freebsd.org as an example.

A lot of people do not have the courage to stand forward alone and
wave the flag, but given even a modest investment of encouragement
and interest they will.

Remember how we got our execellent postmaster ?  We asked if anybody
wanted to do that.

I'm sure that if core wants a secretary, actually asking if there
is anybody who would want to do that task on the specified conditions
would get you somebody.

Of course you wont see a lot of hands if you ask for somebody to
implement "clustering", but if you ask for a team if FAQ writers,
I'm sure we can find them. 

You want a more dynamic homepage ?  Ask for somebody to do it instead
of expecting already busy committers to do so...

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