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Date:      Sat, 29 Jan 2000 22:59:15 -0500 (EST)
From:      David Gilbert <dgilbert@velocet.ca>
To:        chris@calldei.com
Cc:        David Gilbert <dgilbert@velocet.ca>, freebsd-current@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Printer fiascos.
Message-ID:  <14483.46867.83713.676590@trooper.velocet.net>
In-Reply-To: <20000129214940.J10669@holly.calldei.com>
References:  <14483.45082.151986.340011@trooper.velocet.net> <20000129214940.J10669@holly.calldei.com>

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>>>>> "Chris" == Chris Costello <chris@calldei.com> writes:

Chris> On Saturday, January 29, 2000, David Gilbert wrote:
>> When this happens, the entire machine freezes until someone feeds
>> the printer --- the momment it starts printing again, the computer
>> unfreezes.

Chris>    Could it be a printer-specific (or printer-compatibility)
Chris> problem?  My HP DeskJet 880C does not have that problem at all:

To my mind, the printer shouldn't be able to hang the comptuer ... no
matter what it does.  My biggest problem is that it hangs the system.

To your lack of problem, all I can say is that you might not have the
conditions to notice it.  To see the problem, you need the printer to
fail to pick up paper (or to run out of paper) while the job is still
being fed by the computer (does not count if the job is entirely
within the printer when it runs out of paper).

Now... I'm running LPRng, and it appears that only things printed by
Samba clients (as opposed to local jobs which go through a gs filter
first) hang the printer --- but this may be a red herring (that is all 
jobs might have the possibility to hang the printer, it's simply in
our experience that lpr-submitted jobs havn't ... but then the sample
of lpr jobs is very small compared to the sample of samba jobs).

Regardless... the fact that the printer is hard to get working is a
minor problem.  The fact that it hangs the whole system is a MAJOR
problem.

(This is a real hard hang.  Durning the hang no mouse/X response and
no network (not even ping) response)

When the printer is given paper, this problem disappears.

Dave.

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