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Date:      Fri, 30 May 1997 16:16:24 +0200 (MEST)
From:      Søren Schmidt <sos@sos.freebsd.dk>
To:        blank@fox.uni-trier.de
Cc:        chuckr@glue.umd.edu, gpalmer@FreeBSD.ORG, freebsd-current@freefall.FreeBSD.org, postmaster@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: ctm
Message-ID:  <199705301416.QAA04273@sos.freebsd.dk>
In-Reply-To: <199705301253.OAA04727@sliphost37.uni-trier.de> from Sascha Blank at "May 30, 97 02:53:43 pm"

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In reply to Sascha Blank who wrote:
> >>>>> "Søren" == Søren Schmidt writes:
> 
>   Søren> But your problems wont end there :(
> 
>   Søren> It seems the CTM generation has halted, there hasn't been a
>   Søren> delta for 48 hours now. The machine that normally carries the
>   Søren> masters shrimp.dataplex.net has vanished from the net, so has
>   Søren> Mr Wackerbart it seems (or his mailaacount on dataplex.net
>   Søren> has been closed) as he doesn't respond to mail (yet).
> 
> First of all to stand up for Richard: About a week ago his father had
> to be hospitalized and since then circumstances force him to let his
> machines run without his personal administration. He promised me to
> join the crowd again as soon as things have settled down a bit (I
> don't know when this will be). I am sure he would have chosen an
> alternative if he had been able to. So, everyone who has sent him
> mail, have some more patience please.

Hmm, I'm sorry about that, but it doesn't help the ones (like me)
that depend on CTM delivering...
It would have been nice if we had gotten a short statement to the
fact that delivery could be unreliable for a short time..

>   Søren> I think we should try find CTM a new home, it has been much
>   Søren> to unreliable lately. What does it take ?? a few gigs of disk
>   Søren> and a machine with resonable connectivity ??
> 
> Søren, I think you are blaming the wrong guy. Since Richard has taken
> over the CTM production it is working like a charm (Poul-Henning, this
> is in no way an offence against you). What has caused Richard grief
> and what has finally led to the direct CTM link from his site to mine
> is the fact that the _distribution_ of the deltas breaks down from
> time to time for reasons that are out of his scope. I can judge this
> well because everytime people complain about a missing delta is has
> always found its way to our ftp site (maybe it's because we are
> deliberartely bypassing freebsd.org).

I'm not blaming anybody, I just rationalize the fact that (at least
to me) CTM delivery is important (and as far as I'm concerned, it
worked flawlessly under phk's wings, until the old setup broke) and
its important that it works (and is looked after).

If the problms can be resolved and dataplex.net connectivity
be brought to a level where it can be reached, then by all means
do it, but its pretty fatal that the CTM delivery is standing
still...

In the meantime I'll have to fight cvsup :)

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Søren Schmidt               (sos@FreeBSD.org)               FreeBSD Core Team
                Even more code to hack -- will it ever end
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