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Date:      Sat, 13 Jun 1998 09:11:14 +1000
From:      Sue Blake <sue@welearn.com.au>
To:        Gary Harris <gharris@wr.com.au>
Cc:        newbies@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Installing X
Message-ID:  <19980613091114.46852@welearn.com.au>
In-Reply-To: <199806121900.FAA26941@mail.wr.com.au>; from Gary Harris on Sat, Jun 13, 1998 at 04:57:10AM %2B1000
References:  <19980611002930.45363@nothing-going-on.org>; <19980612074543.31873@welearn.com.au> <199806121900.FAA26941@mail.wr.com.au>

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On Sat, Jun 13, 1998 at 04:57:10AM +1000, Gary Harris wrote:
> 
> > > > Ok - what would be *really* helpful would be some sort of instructions
> > > > on how to install X. 
> 
> > > Ignoring the issue of acquiring the actual tarballs for X, what's wrong
> > > with the instructions that come with it at the moment?
> > 
> > Which instructions? Where? Are they in the Handbook or FAQ?
> > (It's a while since I've done a new installation)
> 
> there's a file in the XF86332 ftp directory and a large entry in the
> Handbook on www,freebsd.com.

Thanks, but it's still not working for me :-( If I can't find this stuff
there must be one or two other newbies who can't either.

Can you be more specific about the "file in the XF86332 ftp directory" ?

In the latest version of the handbook on the FTP site all I can see is
the same vague link to www.xfree86.org that's been there for ages.
Two lines, not a large entry. Am I looking in the wrong place?

When I went to xfree86.org I did find some documentation that I couldn't
see there last time I looked. Either I missed it last time round, or it's
been added since. It is strange, though, that nobody was able to point me
to anything when I asked for links to easy documentation to put on the
FreeBSD Newbies Resources page, and that nobody has suggested any
corrections or additions to that page for easy X documentation.

And I'm still wishing for something that will help a microsoft newbie who
has just installed FreeBSD from the CD to get from there to actually
*using* X, ie, to the point where they no longer have to be embarrassed
by having the people in freebsd-questions tell them how to put X in their
path, or claiming that some non-existent ~/.x* files should be edited,
how to use the mouse (pasting, extra buttons, etc) and knowing that the
supplied twm isn't all that X does.

Either once people have X working nicely they become complacent and
forget about the difficulties of others, or I'm missing a lot of stuff.
If I'm being stupid about this probably others will be too unless you
people who do know these things tell us how we can know too.

Having a web page should mean that no more than one newbie has to be
floundering for doccos. Now I'm doing the floundering and I need all of
you to tell me where I'm stupid, to help stop this happening to others.
What's out there on X that's suitable for us?

-- 

Regards,
        -*Sue*-


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