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Date:      Wed, 12 Aug 1998 02:29:37 -0700
From:      Josef Grosch <jgrosch@mooseriver.com>
To:        Nick Hibma <nick.hibma@jrc.it>
Cc:        FreeBSD hackers mailing list <hackers@FreeBSD.ORG>
Subject:   Re: solaris is free.
Message-ID:  <19980812022936.A16972@mooseriver.com>
In-Reply-To: <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980812110325.19133O-100000@elect8>; from Nick Hibma on Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 11:06:25AM %2B0200
References:  <19980812014614.B16463@mooseriver.com> <Pine.GSO.3.95q.980812110325.19133O-100000@elect8>

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On Wed, Aug 12, 1998 at 11:06:25AM +0200, Nick Hibma wrote:
>  > > Note that this is only free in the sense that you can buy it
>  > > for a low cost from Sun.
>  > > 
>  > > You don't get source.
>  > > 
>  > > You don't get the ability to give copies to other people.
>  > 
>  > My guess is that Sun is beginning to feel the heat from FreeBSD and
>  > Linux. Last time I looked very few people we running Solaris on X86. Mayby
>  > they are starting to worry about all those older Sparc's running NetBSD.
> 
> To be honest, x86 SOlaris has always been a bit a forgotten child in the
> Sun family. 

Given the speed of Solaris on x86 I'm not surprised. When I was contracting
at Sun earlier this year I went around installing FreeBSD on machines that
were running Solaris. Even hard core Sun people were surprised at how much
faster FreeBSD ran.

>             Sun likes to ship complete systems they can reliably
> support. Giving supports to PC weenies is not one of their favourite
> hobbies.

Yes, Sun is used to having decent hardware. The dirty secret in this
industry is that PC manufacturers have been getting away with murder for
years. 


Josef

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