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Date:      Mon, 14 Sep 1998 20:35:35 +0800
From:      Peter Wemm <peter@netplex.com.au>
To:        Luigi Rizzo <luigi@labinfo.iet.unipi.it>
Cc:        archie@whistle.com (Archie Cobbs), net@FreeBSD.ORG
Subject:   Re: Will the TEE function of IPFW be ever implemented/necessary ? 
Message-ID:  <199809141235.UAA10513@spinner.netplex.com.au>
In-Reply-To: Your message of "Wed, 09 Sep 1998 07:41:23 %2B0200." <199809090541.HAA17889@labinfo.iet.unipi.it> 

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Luigi Rizzo wrote:
> > Luigi Rizzo writes:
> > > > I'd prefer that someone implemented it, because a few people have
> > > > asked for it, but on the other hand if no one is even going to implemen
    t
> ...
> > Well, all I can say is that I don't know what people might want
> > to use it for, but people always seem to find a way to suprise us
> 
> but you said a few people have asked for it! so what they want it for...

One thing that ipfilter can do that ipfw can't untill tee is implemented 
is intercept packets.  Suppose a scenario arrises where a box has a heap 
of ppp connections and one needs logging or tracing and it needs to be 
done discretely.  ipfilter can forward another copy of the packets to 
another host (eg: outside of crackers vision) for logging.

The main difference is that you can have packets logged that wouldn't 
otherwise be visible on an ethernet segment, eg: if a ppp user was trying 
to break into another ppp user on the same host and you needed a secure 
logging point.

Mind you, tcpdump / tcpshow make a pretty good combination, especially 
when the dump file is being accessed via NFS so that there isn't as much 
running to tip off an intruder.

Cheers,
-Peter




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