Date: Thu, 17 Dec 1998 08:44:03 -0600 (CST) From: "M. L. Dodson" <bdodson@beowulf.utmb.edu> To: "Jordan K. Hubbard" <jkh@zippy.cdrom.com> Cc: Benedikt Stockebrand <bs_13943_34262@adimus.de>, hackers@FreeBSD.ORG Subject: Re: Fortran in the base system (was Re: sysinstall) Message-ID: <199812171444.IAA05207@beowulf.utmb.edu> In-Reply-To: <50335.913857664@zippy.cdrom.com> References: <199812161556.JAA01638@beowulf.utmb.edu> <50335.913857664@zippy.cdrom.com>
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Jordan K. Hubbard writes: > > And I was willing to let the matter drop, but the flame content > > of the replies to Steve Kargl's comments seem unwarranted IMO. > > So, let me point out to those who seem so unsympathetic (and I am > > NOT ANY LONGER SUGGESTING THE ADDITION OF FORTRAN TO THE BASE > > SYSTEM -- shouting done on purpose!) the basis of my suggestion > > FWIW, I would be more than happy to see fortran be a part of the > base system. Yes it's big and gnarly, but there's a lot of fortran > still out there and most number crunching weenies don't want to take > time out to figure out how to install the stupid thing, they just > want to get their work done. > Ahhhhhh...... Finally someone who has knowledge of the people I've been describing. :) I'd go farther. And I am one so I can describe them. Most "number crunching weenies" I know are among the least "computer interested" people I know. Maybe it's contempt from being around them so much. > My only reservation here is that most truly decent fortran compilers > are commercial and I have to wonder at the general utility of any of > the freebie versions. > Yeah. I think I'm going to look into the Portland Group stuff Steve Kargl described. Sounds like a plan might be to recommend FBSD, Walnut Creek, XIG, and Portland Group compilers when evangelizing to this bunch. (I say XIG because they have an experimental hardware accelerated OpenGL project going on.) And number crunchers are not immune to budgetary constraints, but the cost of this list of software would get lost in the noise in most installations I know about. Bud Dodson > - Jordan -- M. L. Dodson bdodson@scms.utmb.edu 409-772-2178 FAX: 409-772-1790 To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-hackers" in the body of the message
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