Date: Thu, 6 Apr 2000 15:50:49 -0600 (MDT) From: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com> To: obrien@freebsd.org Cc: Nate Williams <nate@yogotech.com>, arch@freebsd.org Subject: Re: Import of tcsh into src/contrib/, replacing src/usr.bin/csh Message-ID: <200004062150.PAA24400@nomad.yogotech.com> In-Reply-To: <20000406144502.A25177@dragon.nuxi.com> References: <20000406134916.A23265@dragon.nuxi.com> <200004062121.PAA24162@nomad.yogotech.com> <20000406144502.A25177@dragon.nuxi.com>
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[ Last reply on this, honest. I've said my piece ] > > 2) FreeBSD's base installation is *NOT* intended for you to have a > > completely/fully functional workstaion. > > I don't want a fully functional workstation. I want a root account that > is useful. It's completely useful. It has everything you need. What does tcsh provide you that csh doesn't provide you that is needed for root? > I am also tired of explaining to Linux users why our /bin/csh doesn't > have as nice a UI as tcsh. That's a *really* bad reason to bring in csh, and you know it. > > 3) FreeBSD is often used in embedded systems (see PicoBSD), > > I did see PicoBSD (as I mentioned). Can someone show me where it is > required by PicoBSD? PicoBSD is just *one* of the many, many, many uses for small embedded system. Also, PicoBSD is the framework, not the entire enchilada. > > and csh does the job adequately. > > As would Tcsh. If both are adequate, choose the smaller of the two since it benefits more folks that way. ;) > > There is no *need* for tcsh any more that there is a need to replace sh > > with bash or ksh, or whatever. > > The need is our root's shell is crappy. I disagree, but what's stopping you from using tcsh as root's shell? > > Plus, the additional memory use, since at this point csh uses less > > memory than sh > > Does it? Virtual memory yes, but what about core once running? On PicoBSD and other embedded system, swap is just as precious as real memory. (In some cases, it's even more precious...) Nate To Unsubscribe: send mail to majordomo@FreeBSD.org with "unsubscribe freebsd-arch" in the body of the message
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