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Date:      Tue, 13 Mar 2001 12:36:03 -0800
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
To:        phk@critter.freebsd.dk
Cc:        grog@lemis.com, rwatson@FreeBSD.org, imp@harmony.village.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: Core's function (was: The Project and onward [was: Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c]) 
Message-ID:  <20010313123603Y.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: <3794.984471257@critter>
References:  <20010313121002.F59348@wantadilla.lemis.com> <3794.984471257@critter>

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> Because, sometimes getting 200 people to agree is just not possible,
> and yet a decision must be made.

I think you're arguing about an edge case.  If just watching the arch
mailing list is any indiciation, it's not like it's full of tumultuous
architectural wars where nobody is agreeing and the situation is
crying out for daddy to come in and settle things.  The situation
seems to be more one of apathy and silence, and if 200 people can't
motivate themselves to start digging into the tough architectural
issues then why suppose that 7 people are going to do any better?

The elected members of core are hardly extra-human in their abilities
or amount of available time, and when it comes to assessing these
frailties they're no better or worse than the average committer.  I
think it's the "average committer" you need to be trying to reach with
these "what is core doing about it?!" diatribes, so why not change
this to "what are the committers doing about it?!" and see if you get
better results?  Core was never, IMHO, meant to be anything more than
a group of committers with a couple of extra responsibilities.  It's
in committers where the real "power" and motive force lies, and if the
project as a whole is failing to achieve something then it's not core
you should be looking to for some magic bullet solution.

- Jordan

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