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Date:      Tue, 13 Mar 2001 16:10:27 -0800
From:      Jordan Hubbard <jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
To:        paul@originative.co.uk
Cc:        kris@obsecurity.org, obrien@FreeBSD.org, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: src/sys/netinet ip_output.c
Message-ID:  <20010313161027E.jkh@osd.bsdi.com>
In-Reply-To: <3AAEB5CC.640D6CAA@originative.co.uk>
References:  <3AAEA597.81830243@originative.co.uk> <20010313155059P.jkh@osd.bsdi.com> <3AAEB5CC.640D6CAA@originative.co.uk>

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> but what about the sysadmin who has to support a real world environment
> where a product needs to be upgraded to fix a bug, a typical, real world
> application like say the web server, or database.

The sysadmin who has to do all of that doesn't need the ports
collection to hold his hand (or some other appendage) just to do
spot-upgrades of specific pieces.  You think Solaris admins never
upgrade Apache just because they don't have a ports collection?

Upgrading the entire ports collection just to solve this problem is
like using a sledgehammer to kill fleas.

> No sysadmin in their right mind would go for an OS that requires the box
> to be upgraded in order to support the applications that they want to
> run.

I agree, and it's a good thing we don't require that.  FreeBSD still
supports tar, make and cc right out of the box. :)

- Jordan

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