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Date:      Tue, 28 May 2002 08:15:48 -0700
From:      "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>
Cc:        cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/emulators/linux_base Makefile distinfo.alpha distinfo.i386 pkg-plist.alpha pkg-plist.i386
Message-ID:  <20020528081548.D33762@dragon.nuxi.com>
In-Reply-To: <20020528081154.GA86369@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>; from marcel@xcllnt.net on Tue, May 28, 2002 at 01:11:54AM -0700
References:  <200205280235.g4S2ZPr85521@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020528040504.GB55559@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20020528002336.A33431@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020528081154.GA86369@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net>

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On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 01:11:54AM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 12:23:36AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 09:05:04PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> > > >   Upgrade to Red Hat 7.x support.  Many binary-only packages are now requiring
> > > >   Red Hat 7.x to run.
> > > 
> > > We already have linux_base-7.
> > 
> > Would you prefer no linux_base, but only linux_base-<version>?
> 
> That's basicly the direction a choose, but I didn't see a need to rename
> linux_base to linux_base-6. My primary objective when I added linux_base-7
> was to not cause breakages, but instead have people upgrade their ports
> and change the dependencies when applicable. RH 6 is sufficiently
> incompatible with RH 7 that it's most of the time not as simple as a one
> line change in the makefile. At least, that's what I expected...

The problem is the linux_base* packages do not co-exist at all.  And no
one has had suffient motivation to fix things.  Too much "status quo"
here.

See the rest of my comments to sobomax.

 
> Whatever scheme we adopt, we should finally make up our minds and finish
> the job. Shortly after I added linux_base-7, linux_base-6 was created 
> (not by me) and we still have 3 ports.

It was created by me.  I left linux_base-7 as-is for now incase we needed
to make a quick fall back.  Since you are bitching so much about it, it
is gone now.

There should be ONE and only ONE port -- linux_base.  My Red Hat 7.2
system has the ability to run both RH 7 and RH 6 bits.  We should be able
to also -- just as I can run FBSD 2.2 and releng4 bits on my -current
system.


> So whatever the plan was, it's
> still not executed. I added linux_devtools-7 in the mean time and if I'm
> not mistaken will either end up having a different naming scheme then
> linux_base or undergo the same changes, and thus will also leave a trail
> of repocopies behind...

I fail to see the problem here.  We do repo copies all the time.  The
non-verioned number ports should be the latest versions.  That is what
users have come to expect.  You seem to fail to realize I was trying to
do this in steps that could easily be backed out.  But to quiet the
bitching, I'll update the linxu_devtools to the RH7 level now.  Which
really does nothing except to make a back out harder.


> > I am only doing the work because no one else has been willing to move us
> > forward in the past two years.
> 
> Oh? It wasn't you who created support for the RH 7 runtime, so someone
> else must have been willing. I think that you're doing the work because
> the people who would have been willing are probably doing something else
> now.

Yep.
 
> > If it is moving too slow for you, you are more than free to help out.
> 
> Sorry. I dropped support for the linux_base ports when people started
> pissin' in my pool by interfering instead of cooperating. I apparently
> was unimportant enough to be ignored. Fine. Just don't expect I'll be
> coming to their rescue now.

This goes back to the MAINTAINER issue -- right now FreeBSD'ville seems
to not want them -- but rather anachary.


> If you want people to help, communicate and let people know what you're
> up to. I think most (if not all) developers don't have a clue where this
> is going to...

Uh, to run all linux binaries easier than we do today.

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