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Date:      Wed, 29 May 2002 12:50:53 +0200
From:      Eivind Eklund <eivind@FreeBSD.org>
To:        Nik Clayton <nik@FreeBSD.org>
Cc:        "David O'Brien" <obrien@FreeBSD.org>, Marcel Moolenaar <marcel@xcllnt.net>, cvs-committers@FreeBSD.org, cvs-all@FreeBSD.org
Subject:   Re: cvs commit: ports/emulators/linux_base Makefile distinfo.alpha distinfo.i386 pkg-plist.alpha pkg-plist.i386
Message-ID:  <20020529125053.A24253@phoenix.dmnstech.net>
In-Reply-To: <20020528190151.C64264@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>; from nik@FreeBSD.org on Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:01:51PM %2B0100
References:  <200205280235.g4S2ZPr85521@freefall.freebsd.org> <20020528040504.GB55559@dhcp01.pn.xcllnt.net> <20020528002336.A33431@dragon.nuxi.com> <20020528190151.C64264@canyon.nothing-going-on.org>

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On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 07:01:51PM +0100, Nik Clayton wrote:
> On Tue, May 28, 2002 at 12:23:36AM -0700, David O'Brien wrote:
> > On Mon, May 27, 2002 at 09:05:04PM -0700, Marcel Moolenaar wrote:
> > > >   Upgrade to Red Hat 7.x support.  Many binary-only packages are now requiring
> > > >   Red Hat 7.x to run.
> > > 
> > > We already have linux_base-7.
> > 
> > Would you prefer no linux_base, but only linux_base-<version>?
> 
> I would.  A lot of the Linux binary game servers in ports/games require
> 6 rather than 7.

Unless we make it possible to install *both* of these *at the same time*, with
difference on a port-by-port basis as to which is used, I think this is one of
the worst ideas since the triangular wheel.

If we move in this direction, we create two incompatible FreeBSD
configurations - one with linux_base-6 and one with linux_base-7.  Some ports
will work in each of these, but you will ALWAYS have a large subset of broken
ports for your configuration.

I also believe this is why the introduction of a linux_base-7 port by Marcel
has had no effect - people that have ports that work with linux_base (V6)
would effectively be breaking them by moving them to the SMALLER set of
ports that work with linux_base-7.  Thus, there is no maintainer incentive for
doing the upgrade.

I believe O'Brien is doing this the only way it can be done - by forcing a
wholesale change to a new baseline, and attempting to make this baseline work
with everything over a bit of time.  This introduce breakage for a while, but
that is the cost of progress.

Eivind.

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